What, like whatsapp/slack/irc/email/whatever? :)
On Thu, 24 May 2018, at 16:09, Nick Stallman wrote: > If you had SMS via VoIP that would be *really* perfect. > > On 24/05/18 15:52, Karen Hargreave wrote: >> Dual sim, VoIP app on the phone, then tell everyone to call the >> number linked to the VoIP number *shrug* not hard, just a pain>> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 24 May 2018, at 1:18 pm, Christopher Hawker >> <[email protected]> wrote:>> >>> That is where a mobile number on a SIP service would come in useful, >>> 2 providers for data failover, same number no matter which network.>>> >>> CH. >>> >>> *From:* AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of >>> Bradley Amm <[email protected]> *Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2018 >>> 1:06:17 PM *To:* Tony Miles; Mark Currie *Cc:* >>> <,[email protected]>, *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra >>> mobile issues again?>>> >>> Yes but the point is the number is only associated to one sim. If >>> that sims network provider is down you still wont get calls to that >>> number.>>> >>> You can still make calls >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Tony Miles <[email protected]> >>> Date: 24/5/18 9:58 am (GMT+08:00) >>> To: Mark Currie <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "<,[email protected]>," <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile issues again? >>> >>> Might be a market now for dual-sim 'electronic bracelets' too now :)>>> >>> On 23 May 2018 11:57, "Mark Currie" <[email protected]> >>> wrote:>>> >>>> There are dual SIM phones available as well.. Just sayin’ :-) >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf >>>> Of *Bradley Amm *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 11:19 AM *To:* >>>> [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile >>>> issues again?>>>> >>>> It would be great if we could “roam” between all networks or a >>>> company comes up with a product that can roam between all networks>>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf >>>> Of *Brenden Cruikshank *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 6:37 AM *To:* >>>> [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile >>>> issues again?>>>> >>>> I’m on a personal Telstra plan with an iPhone 8 Plus. It’s my >>>> choice to use Telstra because I’m either on call or backup to the >>>> oncall and I selected Telstra due to its “premium” mobile network. >>>> It’s not just coverage but actually reliable data speeds.>>>> >>>> Throughout the Telstra outage my phone never went SOS only, does >>>> this mean my phone wouldn’t have been able to fail over to another >>>> network for 000 / 112??? I was unable to make outbound calls and my >>>> incoming calls all went to voicemail. My guess is I would be unable >>>> to call 000/112 and in an emergency hopefully someone is on another >>>> carrier>>>> >>>> This happened just outside my office building yesterday, if Telstra >>>> was out on Tuesday instead of Monday what’s your chances? Would the >>>> Telstra outage have affected emergency services once they arrived??>>>> >>>> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/woman-seriously-injured-after-being-hit-by-bus-in-brisbane-cbd-20180522-p4zgo5.html>>>> >>>> >>>> Telstra seems to publicly dismiss its outages as minor or “affected >>>> a small number of users” meanwhile people are mentioning it nation >>>> wide. The outages have been higher then usual over the last 6 >>>> months but I’ve got 18 months left on my contact.>>>> >>>> At work we use an Optus evolve service and have 1-3 fixed voice or >>>> data outages on a good month lasting 30-90 mins to half a day or >>>> longer. Business is in contract until 2020, it’s now just accepted >>>> as a normal thing and phones are too hard so “thinking about what >>>> to do about it” isn’t as simple as that. (We did get a second >>>> internet service so I guess we did think about it on the data >>>> side).>>>> >>>> On the other hand we have a legacy Telstra frame relay service, >>>> it’s had 100% uptime for as long as I can remember. Old technology >>>> just seems so much more reliable.>>>> >>>> Tonight I’m picking up a Amaysim to use as a backup on their $10/mo >>>> plan. It’s cheap and what Telstra recommends I don’t do!>>>> >>>> https://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-warns-users-off-cheap-sims-491236>>>> >>>> >>>> And 4G was unavailable this morning at Central station in Brisbane >>>> with minimal to no 3G data throughput. Thanks Telstra.>>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 22 May 2018, at 11:11 pm, Joshua D'Alton <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:>>>>> If a business, regardless of size, isn't looking at these >>>> Telstra >>>>> outages (or any of their provider outages really) and getting the >>>>> ball rolling on what to do about it..... well, not good.>>>>> >>>>> The smallest business has the ability, even if not the >>>>> intelligence/motivation/smarts/etc, to evaluate what they rely on >>>>> and the level of continuity they require. Literally even just >>>>> reading this thread should be enough to raise the appropriate >>>>> questions, such as "why do you think something like "they pay for >>>>> a service. It probably isn't the cheapest, but they pay for it >>>>> anyhow because the name brings an element of trust" means zero >>>>> downtime?">>>>> >>>>> It is interesting that there has been a shift between services you >>>>> could totally rely on (say Telstra in the 90s), to those you can't >>>>> even with a tight SLA (Telstra now..), but the reality is those >>>>> considering a bulletproof system in the 90s still had a backup >>>>> incase of a Telstra outage.>>>>> >>>>> But back to the OP, Telstra dropping 000 should be hounded like no >>>>> tomorrow. People think power gas is essential services, but 000 is >>>>> actually essential. Is anyone monitoring the ACMA or whoever >>>>> responses to these events and the lapsing of SLAs?>>>>> >>>>> On 22 May 2018 at 22:22, Karen Hargreave <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:>>>>>> Ok, devils advocate side to the rant.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstly, let me say that I am not against your idea in the sense >>>>>> that there is definitely a need for small businesses to be more >>>>>> agile.>>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, that said. Yes, one could think that a small business could >>>>>> be more agile, but then, they pay for a service. It probably >>>>>> isn't the cheapest, but they pay for it anyhow because the name >>>>>> brings an element of trust. Small businesses generally don't have >>>>>> the ability to reach into a draw and pick up a sim from another >>>>>> provider just to keep them on the air. Even if they can, how do >>>>>> they tell their customers of a phone number change? Who do they >>>>>> tell? Yes, a solution could involve other types of voice services >>>>>> to be contacted on, but then there is the question, if part of >>>>>> what they are paying for is trust in the brand, then well... you >>>>>> know where I am going.>>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, and food for thought, almost literally... try working at a >>>>>> food delivery place when the competitor has no eftpos... yes, >>>>>> they do lose money :) and customers :)>>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22 May 2018, at 9:49 pm, Jason Leschnik <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>> The Media and the Public's response to this is a little >>>>>>> disheartening. Before I got into the world of networking I'd be >>>>>>> part of the masses on WhingePool ragging on the ISPs. The more I >>>>>>> see behind the curtain of the industry I sympathise that the >>>>>>> problems we face are large and complex. Most people struggle to >>>>>>> perform simple "adult" functions but yet believe that a large >>>>>>> insanely complex organisation with many moving parts isn't just >>>>>>> as potentially flawed is baffling. So many comments on Twitter >>>>>>> with business owners blaming Telstra for their "insane financial >>>>>>> loss" due to the outage but in saying that, isn't their lack of >>>>>>> BCP nothing more than the same thing Telstra saw if not worse? A >>>>>>> small company is much more agile to create a simple BCP for >>>>>>> events like this.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> /Rant >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 21 May 2018 at 10:37, Ross Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm seeing (mobile) services - voice and data - down or >>>>>>>> intermittent in multiple areas for the last 40 minutes or so.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't find anything mentioned about it - am I just lucky >>>>>>>> enough to have a significant proportion of my telstra services >>>>>>>> go titsup all together, or is there some wider issue?>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (None of my services with other carriers seem affected at this >>>>>>>> stage).>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> >> >> _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> > -- > > Nick Stallman Technical Director Email [email protected] Phone 02 > 8039 6820[1] Website www.agentpoint.com.au[2] Agentpoint Netpoint > Level 3, 100 Harris Street, Pyrmont NSW 2009 Facebook Twitter > Instagram Linkedin> _________________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog Links: 1. tel:0280396820 2. https://www.agentpoint.com.au/
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