So the message here is that we should go easy on sexual harassment at AusNOG
events because you did alright out of it.
Loud and clear.
- mark
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Tiny screen, imaginary keyboard.
> On 9 Oct 2018, at 08:31, Skeeve Stevens
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I hate to do this. I'm going to contradict my previous post about this not
> being the forum for such discussions.
>
> This post is not to start another thread war, so if you want to abuse or say
> something else to me, please do it off-list.
>
> I've been catching up on the posts re Sexual Harassment in our industry. I
> didn't read all of them, there were just too many. So I don't know if this
> perspective was addressed.
>
> Firstly, I will state categorically that Sexual Harassment is wrong. SEXUAL
> HARASSMENT is wrong. Flirting or saying hi to a cute girl (or guy) is not
> wrong.
>
> I hate seeing people go politically correct mad and destroying perfectly good
> situations because of a few idiots who should be punished. That said, the
> incident should be looked into to make sure facts/accusations are accurate,
> as a misunderstanding or wrong accusation can easily destroy someone as badly
> as being actually sexually harassed. Bevan was right to make the
> announcement, and right to send the warning of what would occur next time.
>
> But we need to make sure our industry doesn't have all the fun and
> opportunity to meet new people squeezed out of it. I'd hate to see events
> where people are afraid to even say hi to someone they fancy (damn I'm old)
> due to incidents such as these.
>
> I say this because I have a different experience than most people here in
> that I met my wife at an Ausnog event.
>
> It was an industry drinks (pre-conference I believe for Ausnog #2)... there
> was a cute girl named Shanti (white) and her friend Lynette (Sri Lankan)
> which I found highly amusing based on their names. We had lots of fun with
> that and there was much flirting to be had. I wasn't too naughty (based on
> the result), but I do recall my staff carrying me out of that event due to
> way too much alcohol.
>
> It turns out Shanti was the one managing the event on loan from Vocus. As a
> sponsor of Ausnog #2, I had some interactions with Shanti the following few
> days (my staff were previously doing it - but I was smitten), and during the
> actual conference spent most of the time outside doing more flirting with
> this amazingly cute girl who for some reason was giving me the time of day.
>
> I don't recall any of that event really except Vijay Gill being awesome and
> Geoff Huston doing his thing. Apart from that... no idea.. I was a little
> smitten.
>
> A few days later I headed to Christchurch for my first APNIC event (#26) on
> James Spenceleys recommendation and by some stroke of luck (for me), James
> brought along Shanti too. Well, that was that. It was my first APNIC, and
> James asked Shanti to 'keep me amused' [it was all his fault!!] as we were
> obviously getting on well. Well, that was the end of that.
>
> 10 years later, and recently having our 7th Wedding anniversary, and being
> the happiest husband ever that I met and fell for one of the very few women
> at the AusNOG conference.
>
> So. Sexual Harassment is bad bad bad... and anyone who does anyone that is
> not welcome should be taken care of harshly. But, trying to meet people, is
> not a bad thing, and as long as people are respectful, people should continue
> to continue to have fun at these events and not be scared of meeting new
> people, for whatever reasons.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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