Some people have social skills and are able to not be sex pests when interacting IRL rather than needing the barrier of an app to take care of that
> On 9 Oct 2018, at 10:15 am, John Edwards <[email protected]> wrote: > > Flirting with "a cute guy or girl" at an industry function is inappropriate. > > There are apps for that now, save the face to face for professional > relationship building. > > Imagine thinking that someone was interested in you for your skills or > experience, only to find that you misread "innocent flirting". That might > affect your career choices and the industry as a whole would be poorer for > it. At the very least it wasted your time in exploring legitimate networking > opportunities. > > Bonus "PC gone mad" points for sharing a mildly racist anecdote and > obliviously lowering the tone of the place a little bit more. > > John > > > >> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 08:02, Skeeve Stevens >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> I hate to do this. I'm going to contradict my previous post about this not >> being the forum for such discussions. >> >> This post is not to start another thread war, so if you want to abuse or say >> something else to me, please do it off-list. >> >> I've been catching up on the posts re Sexual Harassment in our industry. I >> didn't read all of them, there were just too many. So I don't know if this >> perspective was addressed. >> >> Firstly, I will state categorically that Sexual Harassment is wrong. SEXUAL >> HARASSMENT is wrong. Flirting or saying hi to a cute girl (or guy) is not >> wrong. >> >> I hate seeing people go politically correct mad and destroying perfectly >> good situations because of a few idiots who should be punished. That said, >> the incident should be looked into to make sure facts/accusations are >> accurate, as a misunderstanding or wrong accusation can easily destroy >> someone as badly as being actually sexually harassed. Bevan was right to >> make the announcement, and right to send the warning of what would occur >> next time. >> >> But we need to make sure our industry doesn't have all the fun and >> opportunity to meet new people squeezed out of it. I'd hate to see events >> where people are afraid to even say hi to someone they fancy (damn I'm old) >> due to incidents such as these. >> >> I say this because I have a different experience than most people here in >> that I met my wife at an Ausnog event. >> >> It was an industry drinks (pre-conference I believe for Ausnog #2)... there >> was a cute girl named Shanti (white) and her friend Lynette (Sri Lankan) >> which I found highly amusing based on their names. We had lots of fun with >> that and there was much flirting to be had. I wasn't too naughty (based on >> the result), but I do recall my staff carrying me out of that event due to >> way too much alcohol. >> >> It turns out Shanti was the one managing the event on loan from Vocus. As a >> sponsor of Ausnog #2, I had some interactions with Shanti the following few >> days (my staff were previously doing it - but I was smitten), and during the >> actual conference spent most of the time outside doing more flirting with >> this amazingly cute girl who for some reason was giving me the time of day. >> >> I don't recall any of that event really except Vijay Gill being awesome and >> Geoff Huston doing his thing. Apart from that... no idea.. I was a little >> smitten. >> >> A few days later I headed to Christchurch for my first APNIC event (#26) on >> James Spenceleys recommendation and by some stroke of luck (for me), James >> brought along Shanti too. Well, that was that. It was my first APNIC, and >> James asked Shanti to 'keep me amused' [it was all his fault!!] as we were >> obviously getting on well. Well, that was the end of that. >> >> 10 years later, and recently having our 7th Wedding anniversary, and being >> the happiest husband ever that I met and fell for one of the very few women >> at the AusNOG conference. >> >> So. Sexual Harassment is bad bad bad... and anyone who does anyone that is >> not welcome should be taken care of harshly. But, trying to meet people, is >> not a bad thing, and as long as people are respectful, people should >> continue to continue to have fun at these events and not be scared of >> meeting new people, for whatever reasons. >> >> ...Skeeve >> >> Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd >> [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com >> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve >> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve >> Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco - >> IPv4 Brokering >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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