Not what I said Mark. I respect you, but if you can't see what I said, go fuck yourself. Seriously.
...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco - IPv4 Brokering On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:23 AM Mark Newton <[email protected]> wrote: > So the message here is that we should go easy on sexual harassment at > AusNOG events because you did alright out of it. > > Loud and clear. > > - mark > > -- > Tiny screen, imaginary keyboard. > > > On 9 Oct 2018, at 08:31, Skeeve Stevens < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I hate to do this. I'm going to contradict my previous post about this not > being the forum for such discussions. > > This post is not to start another thread war, so if you want to abuse or > say something else to me, please do it off-list. > > I've been catching up on the posts re Sexual Harassment in our industry. I > didn't read all of them, there were just too many. So I don't know if this > perspective was addressed. > > Firstly, I will state categorically that Sexual Harassment is wrong. > SEXUAL HARASSMENT is wrong. Flirting or saying hi to a cute girl (or guy) > is not wrong. > > I hate seeing people go politically correct mad and destroying perfectly > good situations because of a few idiots who should be punished. That said, > the incident should be looked into to make sure facts/accusations are > accurate, as a misunderstanding or wrong accusation can easily destroy > someone as badly as being actually sexually harassed. Bevan was right to > make the announcement, and right to send the warning of what would occur > next time. > > But we need to make sure our industry doesn't have all the fun and > opportunity to meet new people squeezed out of it. I'd hate to see events > where people are afraid to even say hi to someone they fancy (damn I'm old) > due to incidents such as these. > > I say this because I have a different experience than most people here in > that I met my wife at an Ausnog event. > > It was an industry drinks (pre-conference I believe for Ausnog #2)... > there was a cute girl named Shanti (white) and her friend Lynette (Sri > Lankan) which I found highly amusing based on their names. We had lots of > fun with that and there was much flirting to be had. I wasn't too naughty > (based on the result), but I do recall my staff carrying me out of that > event due to way too much alcohol. > > It turns out Shanti was the one managing the event on loan from Vocus. As > a sponsor of Ausnog #2, I had some interactions with Shanti the following > few days (my staff were previously doing it - but I was smitten), and > during the actual conference spent most of the time outside doing more > flirting with this amazingly cute girl who for some reason was giving me > the time of day. > > I don't recall any of that event really except Vijay Gill being awesome > and Geoff Huston doing his thing. Apart from that... no idea.. I was a > little smitten. > > A few days later I headed to Christchurch for my first APNIC event (#26) > on James Spenceleys recommendation and by some stroke of luck (for me), > James brought along Shanti too. Well, that was that. It was my first > APNIC, and James asked Shanti to 'keep me amused' [it was all his fault!!] > as we were obviously getting on well. Well, that was the end of that. > > 10 years later, and recently having our 7th Wedding anniversary, and being > the happiest husband ever that I met and fell for one of the very few women > at the AusNOG conference. > > So. Sexual Harassment is bad bad bad... and anyone who does anyone that is > not welcome should be taken care of harshly. But, trying to meet people, is > not a bad thing, and as long as people are respectful, people should > continue to continue to have fun at these events and not be scared of > meeting new people, for whatever reasons. > > ...Skeeve > > *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd > [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com > > Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve > > facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> > linkedin.com/in/skeeve > Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco - IPv4 > Brokering > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > >
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