Funny, I was going to say the same thing to you. On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 12:24 pm, Skeeve Stevens < [email protected]> wrote:
> You're now part of the problem, not the solution. > > > ...Skeeve > > *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd > [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com > > Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve > > facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> > linkedin.com/in/skeeve > Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco - IPv4 > Brokering > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:15 AM John Edwards <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Flirting with "a cute guy or girl" at an industry function is >> inappropriate. >> >> There are apps for that now, save the face to face for professional >> relationship building. >> >> Imagine thinking that someone was interested in you for your skills or >> experience, only to find that you misread "innocent flirting". That might >> affect your career choices and the industry as a whole would be poorer for >> it. At the very least it wasted your time in exploring legitimate >> networking opportunities. >> >> Bonus "PC gone mad" points for sharing a mildly racist anecdote and >> obliviously lowering the tone of the place a little bit more. >> >> John >> >> >> >> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 08:02, Skeeve Stevens < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I hate to do this. I'm going to contradict my previous post about this >>> not being the forum for such discussions. >>> >>> This post is not to start another thread war, so if you want to abuse or >>> say something else to me, please do it off-list. >>> >>> I've been catching up on the posts re Sexual Harassment in our industry. >>> I didn't read all of them, there were just too many. So I don't know if >>> this perspective was addressed. >>> >>> Firstly, I will state categorically that Sexual Harassment is wrong. >>> SEXUAL HARASSMENT is wrong. Flirting or saying hi to a cute girl (or guy) >>> is not wrong. >>> >>> I hate seeing people go politically correct mad and destroying perfectly >>> good situations because of a few idiots who should be punished. That said, >>> the incident should be looked into to make sure facts/accusations are >>> accurate, as a misunderstanding or wrong accusation can easily destroy >>> someone as badly as being actually sexually harassed. Bevan was right to >>> make the announcement, and right to send the warning of what would occur >>> next time. >>> >>> But we need to make sure our industry doesn't have all the fun and >>> opportunity to meet new people squeezed out of it. I'd hate to see events >>> where people are afraid to even say hi to someone they fancy (damn I'm old) >>> due to incidents such as these. >>> >>> I say this because I have a different experience than most people here >>> in that I met my wife at an Ausnog event. >>> >>> It was an industry drinks (pre-conference I believe for Ausnog #2)... >>> there was a cute girl named Shanti (white) and her friend Lynette (Sri >>> Lankan) which I found highly amusing based on their names. We had lots of >>> fun with that and there was much flirting to be had. I wasn't too naughty >>> (based on the result), but I do recall my staff carrying me out of that >>> event due to way too much alcohol. >>> >>> It turns out Shanti was the one managing the event on loan from Vocus. >>> As a sponsor of Ausnog #2, I had some interactions with Shanti the >>> following few days (my staff were previously doing it - but I was smitten), >>> and during the actual conference spent most of the time outside doing more >>> flirting with this amazingly cute girl who for some reason was giving me >>> the time of day. >>> >>> I don't recall any of that event really except Vijay Gill being awesome >>> and Geoff Huston doing his thing. Apart from that... no idea.. I was a >>> little smitten. >>> >>> A few days later I headed to Christchurch for my first APNIC event (#26) >>> on James Spenceleys recommendation and by some stroke of luck (for me), >>> James brought along Shanti too. Well, that was that. It was my first >>> APNIC, and James asked Shanti to 'keep me amused' [it was all his fault!!] >>> as we were obviously getting on well. Well, that was the end of that. >>> >>> 10 years later, and recently having our 7th Wedding anniversary, and >>> being the happiest husband ever that I met and fell for one of the very few >>> women at the AusNOG conference. >>> >>> So. Sexual Harassment is bad bad bad... and anyone who does anyone that >>> is not welcome should be taken care of harshly. But, trying to meet people, >>> is not a bad thing, and as long as people are respectful, people should >>> continue to continue to have fun at these events and not be scared of >>> meeting new people, for whatever reasons. >>> >>> ...Skeeve >>> >>> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Architect - *eintellego Networks Pty >>> Ltd >>> [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com >>> >>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve >>> >>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> >>> linkedin.com/in/skeeve >>> Cumulus Linux / Open Networking - Cloud - Consulting - Juniper - Cisco >>> - IPv4 Brokering >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >> _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >
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