Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the 
following questions, which are also in the XML file.


1) <!-- [rfced] Per use in RFCs 9613, we updated the expansion for MNA from 
"MPLS
Network Actions" (plural "Actions") to "MPLS Network Action" (singular
"Action"). Note that we also made this change in the abstract and
introduction. However, if you prefer to use the plural, perhaps we can update as
follows.

Original (document title):
  MPLS Network Actions (MNA) Framework

Current:
  MPLS Network Action (MNA) Framework

Perhaps:
  Framework for MPLS Network Actions (MNAs)
-->


2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->


3) <!-- [rfced] Will readers understand which items are part of the series here?
Does one of the following accurately convey the intended meaning?

Original:
   These might include
   load-balancing a packet given its entropy, whether or not to perform
   fast-reroute on a failure, and whether or not a packet has metadata
   relevant to the forwarding actions along the path.

Perhaps (entropy, whether or not..., whether or not...):
   These might include
   load-balancing a packet given its entropy, whether or not
   fast-reroute is performed on a failure, and whether or not a packet has 
metadata
   relevant to the forwarding actions along the path.

Or (load-balancing, indicating, indicating):
   These might include
   load-balancing a packet given its entropy, indicating whether or not to 
perform
   Fast Reroute on a failure, and indicating whether or not a packet has 
metadata
   relevant to the forwarding actions along the path.
-->


4) <!-- [rfced] We have a few questions about the similar text below from
Sections 1.2 and 2.

a) Please confirm that NSI is the correct acronym for "Network Action
Sub-Stack Indicator". Should it be "NASI" rather than "NSI" to correspond with
"Network Action Indicator (NAI)" and "Network Action Sub-Stack (NAS)"?

b) Is the NSI the special-purpose label? If so, may we update the definition
below as follows?

c) The second definition below mentions "MNA label", but the first does
not. Also, one definition uses "special label", and the other uses
"special-purpose label". Are any updates needed?

Original:
   *  Network Action Sub-Stack Indicator (NSI): The first LSE in the NAS
      contains a special label that indicates the start of the NAS.
   ...
   *  Network Action Sub-Stack Indicator (NSI): The first LSE in the NAS
      contains a special purpose label, called the MNA label, which is
      used to indicate the start of a network action sub-stack.

Perhaps:
   Network Action Sub-Stack Indicator (NASI):  The special-purpose label 
contained
      in the first LSE in the NAS. The NSI, also called the MNA label, indicates
      the start of the NAS.
   ...
   *  Network Action Sub-Stack Indicator (NASI): The special-purpose label 
contained
      in the first LSE in the NAS. The NSI, also called the MNA label, indicates
      the start of the NAS.
-->


5) <!-- [rfced] We see that "sub-stacks" (plural) is used early in the sentence
and "sub-stack" (singular) is used later. Is the current correct, or
should both instances be either plural or singular?

Original:
   A solution must specify where in the label stack the network
   actions sub-stacks occur, if and how frequently they should be
   replicated within the label stack, and how the network action sub-
   stack and post-stack data are encoded.
-->


6) <!-- [rfced] This sentence includes two instances of "post-stack data". 
Please
confirm that this is correct.

Original:
   As an example, post-stack data might appear as a label stack followed
   by post-stack data, followed by the payload:

Perhaps:
   As an example, post-stack data might appear in a label stack, followed
   by the payload:
-->


7) <!-- [rfced] Would updating "not more than one" to simply "one" or "a single"
improve readability of this sentence?

Original:
   This document assumes that the MPLS WG will select not more than one
   solution for the encoding of ISD and not more than one solution for
   the encoding of PSD.

Perhaps:
   This document assumes that the MPLS WG will select a single
   solution for the encoding of ISD and a single solution for
   the encoding of PSD.
-->


8) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We updated the parenthetical as shown below.

Original:
   A node SHOULD use signaling
   (e.g., [RFC9088], [RFC9089]) to determine this.

Updated:
   A node SHOULD use signaling
   (e.g., the signaling described in [RFC9088] and [RFC9089]) to determine this.
-->


9) <!-- [rfced] Should the text introducing the list indicate if the value is
"from one of the following" or "each of the following"? Or will readers
understand?

Original:
   An MNA node MUST use the RLD determined by selecting the first
   advertised non-zero value from:

   *  The RLD advertised for the link.

   *  The RLD advertised for the node.

   *  The non-zero ERLD for the node.

Perhaps:
   An MNA node MUST use the RLD determined by selecting the first
   advertised non-zero value from one of the following:

   *  The RLD advertised for the link

   *  The RLD advertised for the node

   *  The non-zero ERLD for the node

Or:
   An MNA node MUST use the RLD determined by selecting the first
   advertised non-zero value from each of the following:

   *  The RLD advertised for the link

   *  The RLD advertised for the node

   *  The non-zero ERLD for the node
-->


10) <!-- [rfced] Each definition below includes a number of bits except for
TTL. Should the TTL definition also include a number of bits?

Original:
   Label:  Label value, 20 bits
   TC:  Traffic Class, 3 bits
   S:  Bottom of Stack, 1 bit
   TTL:  Time To Live

Perhaps:
   Label:  Label value, 20 bits
   TC:  Traffic Class, 3 bits
   S:  Bottom of Stack, 1 bit
   TTL:  Time To Live, 8 bits
-->


11) <!-- [rfced] Figure 4 does not have a title; all the other figures do. What
title should we add for Figure 4? Also, would it be helpful to revise the
title of Figure 3 to be more descriptive?

Current:
  Figure 3: A Label Stack Entry
  Figure 4

Perhaps:
  Figure 3: A Label Stack Entry with TC and TTL Retained
  Figure 4: A Label Stack Entry with TC and TTL Repurposed
-->


12) <!-- [rfced] Should "NAI" here be plural (i.e., "NAIs")?

Original:
   A solution may carry some NAI and AD as PSD.

Perhaps (change to "NAIs"):
   A solution may carry some NAIs and AD as PSD.

Or (remove "some"):
   A solution may carry NAI and AD as PSD.
-->


13) <!-- [rfced] "ECMP'ed" has not been used in published RFCs. Will readers
understand what this means? Perhaps rephrasing would be helpful.

Original:
   For example, an
   Ethernet Pseudowire without a control word might have "4" or "6" in
   the first nibble and thus will be ECMP'ed.
-->


14) <!-- [rfced] We are having trouble understanding the text starting with "to
determine...". Please clarify.

Original:
   However, the BIER approach meets
   the design goal of [RFC8296] to determine that the payload is IPv4,
   IPv6 or with the header of a pseudowire packet with a control word,
   rather than being a payload belonging to a BIER or some other type of
   packet.
-->


15) <!-- [rfced] How may we update this sentence for clarity?

Original:
   Network actions should be defined in a document that must contain:

Perhaps:
  The definition of a network action in a document must contain the following:

Or:
  Network actions should be defined in a document using the format below:
-->


16) <!-- [rfced] The "Scope", "State", and "Required/Optional" items below 
include
complete sentences starting with "The document should..."; the other
items in the list do not. How may we update these three items to create
parallel structure in this list?

Original:
   *  Name: The name of the network action.

   *  Network Action Indicator: The bit position or opcode that
      indicates that the network action is active.

   *  Scope: The document should specify which nodes should perform the
      network action as described in Section 2.1.

   *  State: The document should specify if the network action can
      modify state in the network, and if so, the state that may be
      modified and its side effects.

   *  Required/Optional: The document should specify whether a node is
      required to perform the network action.

   *  In-Stack Data: The number of LSEs of in-stack data, if any, and
      its encoding.  If this is of a variable length, then the solution
      must specify how an implementation can determine this length
      without implementing the network action.

   *  Post-Stack Data: The encoding of post-stack data, if any.  If this
      is of a variable length, then the solution must specify how an
      implementation can determine this length without implementing the
      network action.

Perhaps:
   Name:  The name of the network action.

   Network Action Indicator:  The bit position or opcode that indicates
      that the network action is active.

   Scope:  Description of which nodes should perform the
      network action as described in Section 2.1.

   State:  Indication of whether the network action can modify
      state in the network and, if so, the state that may be modified
      and its side effects.

   Required/Optional:  Indication of whether a node is
      required to perform the network action.

   In-Stack Data:  The number of LSEs of in-stack data, if any, and its
      encoding.  If this is of a variable length, then the solution must
      specify how an implementation can determine this length without
      implementing the network action.

   Post-Stack Data:  The encoding of post-stack data, if any.  If this
      is of a variable length, then the solution must specify how an
      implementation can determine this length without implementing the
      network action.
-->


17) <!-- [rfced] May we update this text as follows to clarify "its" and "this"?

Original:
   In-Stack Data:  The number of LSEs of in-stack data, if any, and its
      encoding.  If this is of a variable length, then the solution must
      specify how an implementation can determine this length without
      implementing the network action.

   Post-Stack Data:  The encoding of post-stack data, if any.  If this
      is of a variable length, then the solution must specify how an
      implementation can determine this length without implementing the
      network action.

Perhaps:
   In-Stack Data:  The number of LSEs of in-stack data, if any, and the
      encoding of the in-stack data. If the in-stack data is of a variable
      length, then the solution must
      specify how an implementation can determine the length without
      implementing the network action.

   Post-Stack Data:  The encoding of post-stack data, if any.  If the 
post-stack data
      is of a variable length, then the solution must specify how an
      implementation can determine the length without implementing the
      network action.
-->


18) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be alphabetized
or left in their current order?
-->


19) <!-- [rfced] The following reference appears to point to IEEE Std 802.1AE 
with
a date of August 2006. However, that version has been superseded by a new
version dated December 2018. See https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8585421.

We have updated this reference entry to current version. Please let us know
if you have any objections.

Original:
   [MACsec]   IEEE Computer Society, "IEEE 802.1AE Media Access Control
              (MAC) Security", August 2006.

Updated:
   [MACsec]   IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
              networks-Media Access Control (MAC) Security", IEEE Std
              802.1AE-2018, DOI 10.1109/ieeestd.2018.8585421, 26
              December 2018,
              <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8585421>.
-->


20) <!-- [rfced] Terminology

a) If no objections, we will update instances of "sub-stack" (with hyphen) to
"substack" (no hyphen).


b) Please review use of "special label". Should instances of
"special label" be updated to "special-purpose label"?
-->


21) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviations

a) FYI - We have added expansions for the following abbreviations per Section
3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each expansion in the
document carefully to ensure correctness.

Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
IP Fast Reroute (IPFRR)
Fast Reroute (FRR)
Label Switching Router (LSR)
Media Access Control Security (MACsec)


b) Is the abbreviation NAS read as "nass" or as "en-ay-ess"? We ask in order to
choose the appropriate indefinite article for it to follow. Currently, both
"an NAS" and "a NAS" are used in the document.


c) The following abbreviations appear in the text but do not appear in Table 1.
Would you like for them to be added to Table 1?

LSP
TC
TTL


d) Throughout the document, the expanded form of the following terms are often
used although the abbreviations are introduced in Section 1. Would you like to
use the abbreviations after the introduction in Section 1? Or do you prefer the
current?

network action sub-stack
post-stack data
ancillary data
Entropy Label
-->


22) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


Thank you.

RFC Editor/rv



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RFC9789 (draft-ietf-mpls-mna-fwk-15)

Title            : MPLS Network Actions (MNA) Framework
Author(s)        : L. Andersson, S. Bryant, M. Bocci, T. Li
WG Chair(s)      : Tarek Saad, Tony Li, Adrian Farrel

Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde

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