Hi RFC Editor, Thank you for your work on this document.
> On Jul 1, 2025, at 2:21 AM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > Authors, > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) > the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > 1) <!--[rfced] BGP-LS and SPF > > a) Would you like to update the title of the document as shown below > or otherwise, to more closely match how "BGP-LS" and "SPF" > are handled in the title of RFC-to-be 9815? > > Original: > Usage and Applicability of BGP Link-State Shortest Path > Routing (BGP-SPF) in Data Centers > > Option A: > Usage and Applicability of BGP Link-State > Shortest Path First (SPF) Routing in Data Centers Use option A consistent with the base document - "BGP Link-State Shortest Path First (SPF) Routing" in RFC 9815. > > Option B: > Usage and Applicability of BGP - Link State (BGP-LS) > Shortest Path First (SPF) Routing in Data Centers > > b) To match how the companion document expands "BGP-LS" and > "SPF", may we update the Abstract and Introduction as shown > below for consistency? > > Original (Abstract): > This document discusses the usage and applicability of BGP Link-State > Shortest Path First (BGP-SPF) extensions in data center networks > utilizing Clos or Fat-Tree topologies. > > Perhaps: > This document discusses the usage and applicability of BGP - Link State > (BGP-LS) Shortest Path First (SPF) extensions in data center networks > utilizing Clos or Fat Tree topologies. Use; This document discusses the usage and applicability of BGP Link State (BGP-LS) Shortest Path First (SPF) extensions in data center networks utilizing Clos or Fat Tree topologies. > > ... > Original (Introduction): > This document complements [I-D.ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf] by discussing the > applicability of the BGP-SPF technology in a simple and fairly common > deployment scenario, which is described in Section 3. > > Perhaps: > This document complements [RFC9815] by discussing the applicability of > the BGP - Link State (BGP-LS) Shortest Path First (SPF) technology in > a simple and fairly common deployment scenario, which is described in > Section 3. Use: This document complements [RFC9815] by discussing the applicability of the BGP Link State (BGP-LS) Shortest Path First (SPF) technology in a simple and fairly common deployment scenario, which is described in Section 3. > > c) Throughout the text, we note "BGP-SPF" vs. "BGP SPF". "BGP SPF" is > used both in the companion document and the IANA registry at > <https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-spf/>. Would you like to update > each instance of "BGP-SPF" to "BGP SPF" for consistency? See one > example below: > > Original: > The document is intended to provide simplified guidance > for the deployment of BGP-SPF extensions. > > Perhaps: > The document is intended to provide simplified guidance > for the deployment of BGP SPF extensions. Use "BGP SPF" then. > --> > > > 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in > the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. --> > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] We updated "RFC 5580" to "RFC 5880" in the following > sentence, and elsewhere in the document where "BFD" is > referenced, as "BFD" is defined in RFC 5880 and not mentioned > in RFC 5580. If this is not correct, please let us know. > > Original: > This document also assumes knowledge of data center routing > protocols such as BGP [RFC4271], BGP-SPF [I-D.ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf], OSPF > [RFC2328] [RFC5340], as well as data center Operations, > Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) protocols like Link Layer > Discovery Protocol (LLDP) [RFC4957] and Bi- Directional Forwarding > Detection (BFD) [RFC5580]. > > Current: > This document also assumes knowledge of data center routing > protocols such as BGP [RFC4271], BGP-SPF [RFC9815], and OSPF > [RFC2328] [RFC5340] as well as data center Operations, > Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) protocols like the Link Layer > Discovery Protocol (LLDP) [RFC4957] and Bidirectional Forwarding > Detection (BFD) [RFC5580]. > --> Sure - good catch. > > > 4) <!--[rfced] "SPF" is not mentioned in RFC 9552. Should a different RFC be > referenced or was "OSPF" perhaps intended? > > Original: > The BGP-SPF modifications allow BGP to overcome these limitations. > Furthermore, using the BGP-LS Network Layer Reachability Information > (NLRI) format allows the BGP-SPF data to be advertised for nodes, > links, and prefixes in the BGP routing domain and used for Short- > Path-First (SPF) computations [RFC9552]. > --> Use: The BGP-SPF modifications allow BGP to overcome these limitations. Furthermore, using the BGP-LS Network Layer Reachability Information (NLRI) format [RFC9552] allows the BGP-SPF data to be advertised for nodes, links, and prefixes in the BGP routing domain and used for Short- Path-First (SPF) computations. > > > 5) <!-- [rfced] We see that the approved I-D (v22) contains one instance > of a keyword ("MUST" in Section 5.5.1). Is this intentional? If > so, we will add the typical paragraph from BCP 14 regarding use > of keywords after the Introduction and add RFCs 2119 and 8174 to > the Normative References section. Otherwise, we will update > "MUST" to "must". > > Original: > The Link Local/Remote Identifiers of the peering interfaces MUST be > used in the link NLRI as described in section 5.2.2 of > [I-D.ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf]. > --> Please change to "must" for BCP. > > > 6) <!--[rfced] Is "BGP-LS SPF Topology" correct or should it perhaps be > "BGP-LS-SPF Topology" for consistency? > > Original: > 5.5.2 BGP-LS SPF Topology Visibility for Management > > Perhaps: > 5.5.2 BGP-LS-SPF Topology Visibility for Management > --> Ok. > > > 7) <!--[rfced] Would repeating "Non" make this section title more clear? > The meaning seems to be applicability to topologies that are > neither Clos nor Fat Tree topologies. > > Original: > 6. Non-CLOS/FAT Tree Topology Applicability > > Current: > 6. Non-Clos / Fat Tree Topology Applicability > > Perhaps: > 6. Non-Clos / Non-Fat-Tree Topology Applicability > --> Leave as: 6. Non-Clos / Fat Tree Topology Applicability > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We updated the following terms for > consistency. Please let us know of any objections. > > BGP-LS Node NLRI Attribute SPF Status TLV -> > BGP-LS-SPF Node NLRI Attribute SPF Status TLV (per the companion doc) > BGP-LS SPF SAFI -> BGP-LS-SPF SAFI (per the companion doc) > Clos Topologies -> Clos topologies > Fat-Tree -> Fat Tree (per use in the RFC Series) > link NLRI -> Link NLRI (per RFC 9552) > Route Controllers -> route controllers (per companion document) > Route Reflectors -> route reflectors (per companion document) > Spine Nodes -> spine nodes > Unicast -> unicast > --> Ok. > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have updated the expansions for the following > abbreviations to reflect the form on the right for consistency with > the companion document and/or RFC Series. > > Bi-Directional Forwarding Detection (BFD) -> > Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) Ok. > > Equal-Cost Multi-Path (ECMP) -> Equal-Cost Multipath (ECMP) Ok. > > Top-Of-Rack (ToR) -> Top-of-Rack (ToR) Ok. > --> > > > 10) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online > Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> > and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature typically > result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers. > > For example, please consider whether the following should be updated: > - blackhole Replace "blackhole" with "routes to unreachable destinations". > > In addition, please consider whether "traditional" should be updated > for clarity. While the NIST website > <https://web.archive.org/web/20250214092458/https://www.nist.gov/ > nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-author-instructions#table1> > indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous. > "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone. > --> "usual BGP underlays" and "classical BGP routing". 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