I believe option 3 is the right option. What do I need to do to approve that?

Jim

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Subject: Re: [AD] [C541] AUTH48 Questions: RFCs-to-be 9892-9895

Hi, Jim.  Thanks for the approval.

Apologies if we're missing something.  We just want to confirm how David 
Wiggins will be listed in these documents, since "point #1" could mean either 
question #1 or option #1.  The three options 
(https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Ffaq%2F%23missingauthor&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746727775%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DxNEivjhg%2BYVuhmN5N7bVsB%2F4EY1NwY1aOJmBwgaDyc%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/#missingauthor>)
 are

= = = = =
1. The author can be removed as an author and moved to the Acknowledgements 
section.
2. The author can be removed as an author and moved to the Contributors section.
3. A stream manager can approve the document in place of the unavailable 
author. (See the IESG Statement on AUTH48 State.)

Option 3 is typically used in instances where the missing author made 
significant contributions to the document and so the other authors are not 
comfortable removing the individual from the author list.
= = = = =

Option 3 appears to fit best here, because David is listed as an author in all 
four documents, but please let us know if you're approving Option 1 instead.

Thank you!

Lynne Bartholomew
RFC Production Center

> On Nov 18, 2025, at 3:23 AM, James Guichard <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> Approved point #1.
>
> Jim
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> Subject: Re: [AD] [C541] AUTH48 Questions: RFCs-to-be 9892-9895   Hi,
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 5:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Authors and AD*,
> >
> > *AD, please see #1 below.
> >
> > Authors, while reviewing this cluster of documents*, please reply to
> > the questions below regarding consistency across the cluster. These
> > questions are in addition to the document-specific questions sent
> > for each RFC-to-be. Your reply will likely impact two or more of the
> > documents in the cluster, so please discuss off-list as necessary,
> > and then let us know how to proceed. Note - You have the option of
> > updating the edited XML files yourself, if you prefer.  We will wait
> > to hear from you before continuing with the publication process.
> >
> > * Cluster 541 (C541) currently in AUTH48 state:
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9892.html&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746765343%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kv%2FiIYnPg7veulpjZn%2BiE9rK38ufG59u7tvWT81Kong%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html>
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9893.html&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746787687%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k1p2u7mNanQq0oJGaqpHTceNVQl%2BGlxaMsVhe%2BTXo6Q%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.html>
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9894.html&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746807844%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nl3DUXNqvu6PK023uhHAi6rNzMnHQ44MVpWx1nbRJcg%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9894.html>
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauthors%2Frfc9895.html&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746826881%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=A4eMFyA2J0Gw5nSHZTH84A4ArK2iRPKiXKr4c7xhGpM%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9895.html>
> > (In addition, the .pdf, .txt, .xml, and diff files are available.)
> >
> > You may track the progress of all documents in this cluster through
> > AUTH48 at: 
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Fauth48%2FC541&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746845922%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=x61o8sy94vOWO548oy%2BcxZkLfwP1bGec2F6AUdFX9MM%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C541>
> >
> > 1) *AD - We are sorry to hear of the passing of David Wiggins and
> > Stan Ratliff. David is listed as an author for RFCs-to-be 9892,
> > 9893, 9894, and 9895 (all documents in the cluster). Stan is listed
> > as an author for RFC-to-be 9893.
> >
> > As AD, please confirm that you will approve the documents on behalf
> > of David and Stan. (Note: Any of the three options at
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Ffaq%2F%23missingauthor&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746865285%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Et4l%2Bm8uyX%2Fm%2F3cHr%2FfcEZ1LB42%2FdTv87v6GjVhZbJA%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/#missingauthor>
> >  are acceptable.)
> >
> > 2) FYI - We updated "DiffServ" to "Diffserv" throughout the cluster
> > per 
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Frpc%2Fwiki%2Fdoku.php%3Fid%3Dterms&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746884116%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=n%2FXdrvsFcPgsc%2B%2FtE02VfgZZmYE%2BqszG1AnevvNzZGY%3D&reserved=0<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=terms>.
> >  If no
> > objections, we will ask IANA to update the following descriptions
> > prior to publication.
>
> > Link to registry group: 
> > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org%2Fassignments%2Fdlep-parameters&data=05%7C02%7Cjames.n.guichard%40futurewei.com%7Cef51348be4b54c8ae34908de26c056b9%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C638990804746901157%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=X6jrATkgzqhnIQy3C3ehv3be9bbnwVpl0Qk%2BalzFthg%3D&reserved=0<https://www.iana.org/assignments/dlep-parameters>
> >
> > "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values" registry
> > (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification):
> >
> > OLD:
> >  DiffServ Traffic Classification
> >
> > NEW:
> >  Diffserv Traffic Classification
> >
> > "Extension Type Values" registry 
> > (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension):
> >
> > OLD:
> >   DiffServ Aware Credit Window
> >
> > NEW:
> >   Diffserv Aware Credit Window
>
> I think these updates to only an initial captial letter are fine and
> result in conformance to RFC Editor defaults.
>
> > 3) We see "Credit window control" (beginning of sentence, so the "C" is
> > capitalized) but "credit-window scheme". We suggest updating to "credit 
> > window
> > scheme" (no hyphen).
>
> OK with me.
>
> > 4) Do "credit window control" (approx. 24 instances in cluster) and "credit
> > window flow control" (3 instances in cluster) mean the same thing?  Will the
> > interchangeable usage of these terms - or the distinction between the two -
> > be clear to readers?
>
> Yes, I would say they mean the same thing in these documents. "credit
> window flow control" is just a more complete term and if there are
> seveal uses in the same paragraph or the like, it is reasonable to use
> the more complete term initially and the shortened term subsequently.
>
> > 5) We see both "Type Value" and "Type value" in running text. Which
> > form is preferred?
> >
> > Some examples:
> > "Message Type value" in draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control
> >
> > "DLEP Extension Type Value" in
> > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension and
> > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension
> >
> > "DiffServ Aware Credit Window Type Value" in
> > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension
> >
> > "IEEE 802.1Q Aware Credit Window Type Value" in
> > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension
>
> I am inclined to capitalize Value.
>
> > 6) 'Rick Taylor's "Data Item Containers"' is only mentioned in the
> > Acknowledgments sections of two of the four documents in this group
> > (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification and
> > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension).  Would you like to add the
> > applicable sentence to the Acknowledgments sections of
> > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control and
> > draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension as well?
>
> Yes, I think it would be reasonable and consistant to add that
> sentence to the Acknowledgements sections of the other two
> drafts. They all mention Data Items.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> ===============================
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
>  [email protected]
>
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Lynne Bartholomew and Rebecca VanRheenen
> > RFC Production Center

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