Hi, Lou.

We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page:

   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9893

Thanks to you as well!

Lynne Bartholomew
RFC Production Center

> On Dec 8, 2025, at 3:29 PM, Lou Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The document looks good to me.
> 
> Thank you for all the work!
> 
> Lou
> 
> On 12/8/2025 1:25 PM, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
>> Dear Bow-Nan, Lou, and Eric,
>> 
>> Checking in with you regarding the status of this document.  Please let us 
>> know whether further updates are needed or you approve this document for 
>> publication in its current form.
>> 
>> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
>> 
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.txt
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.pdf
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.html
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.xml
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-diff.html
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-auth48diff.html
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
>> side)
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-lastdiff.html
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
>> 
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-xmldiff1.html
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-xmldiff2.html
>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-alt-diff.html
>> 
>> The AUTH48 status page is here:
>> 
>>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9893
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Lynne Bartholomew
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2025, at 9:03 AM, Lynne Bartholomew 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Eric.  Thanks for your prompt reply to our follow-up items!  We have 
>>> changed '"Credit Window Initialization"' to "credit window initialization" 
>>> (quotation marks removed; they're here only to show what was updated).
>>> 
>>> This update is reflected in the latest files, which are posted here.  
>>> Please refresh your browser:
>>> 
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.txt
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.pdf
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.html
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.xml
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-diff.html
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-auth48diff.html
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>> side)
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-lastdiff.html
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>> 
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-xmldiff1.html
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-xmldiff2.html
>>>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-alt-diff.html
>>> 
>>> Thanks again!
>>> 
>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>> RFC Production Center
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 2, 2025, at 3:58 PM, Eric Kinzie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue Dec 02 13:21:58 -0800 2025, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Eric.  Thank you for the email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have updated this document per your notes below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A couple follow-up items for you:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Please review our update regarding our question 8); it appears that you 
>>>>> approved our "Perhaps" text.  We kept both citations for RFC 8175 to 
>>>>> avoid possible confusion between "Status Data Item" and "Credit Window 
>>>>> Status Data Item".  Please let us know whether or not our update is 
>>>>> correct here (and if you object to the second citation for RFC 8175).
>>>> I approved the "Perhaps" text.  Your update is correct.
>>>> 
>>>>> * May we change '"Credit Window Initialization"' to '"credit window 
>>>>> initialization"' in this sentence (appears to be used generally and 
>>>>> applies to this document only)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Modems provide an initial credit window size at the time of "Credit
>>>>> Window Initialization".
>>>> Yes, changing that to lowercase letters makes sense.  I also think the
>>>> quotation marks can be removed, but I'll leave that to your judgement.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Eric
>>>> 
>>>>> = = = = =
>>>>> 
>>>>> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.txt
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.pdf
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.html
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893.xml
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-diff.html
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-auth48diff.html
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>> side)
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-lastdiff.html
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-lastrfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>> side)
>>>>> 
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-xmldiff1.html
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-xmldiff2.html
>>>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9893-alt-diff.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2025, at 8:38 AM, Eric Kinzie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lynne, please see my responses below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon Dec 01 08:33:00 -0800 2025, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
>>>>>>>> Authors,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as 
>>>>>>>> necessar=
>>>>>>>> y) the following questions, which are also in the source file.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear 
>>>>>>>> in =
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> title) for use on <https://www.rfc-editor.org/search>. -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Abstract:  As it appears that the two new message types
>>>>>>>> (Credit Control and Credit Control Response) also figure prominently
>>>>>>>> in this document (and appear to be mentioned in the document title),
>>>>>>>> would you like to also mention them in the Abstract?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> This document defines new Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Data
>>>>>>>> Items that are used to support credit-based flow control.  Credit
>>>>>>>> window control is used to regulate when data may be sent to an
>>>>>>>> associated virtual or physical queue.  The Data Items are extensible
>>>>>>>> and reusable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Possibly:
>>>>>>>> This document defines new Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Data
>>>>>>>> Items that are used to support credit-based flow control.  Credit
>>>>>>>> window control is used to regulate when data may be sent to an
>>>>>>>> associated virtual or physical queue.  These Data Items are
>>>>>>>> extensible and reusable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This document also defines new messages that support credit window
>>>>>>>> control. -->
>>>>>> That change is fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] FYI:  We have added expansions for abbreviations where
>>>>>>>> they are first used, per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide")
>>>>>>>> (https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7322).  Please review the
>>>>>>>> following expansions to ensure correctness.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> DSCP: Differentiated Services Code Point (Figure 1)
>>>>>>>> MAC: Media Access Control (Section 2)
>>>>>>>> PCP: Priority Code Point (Figure 1) -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 1:  We updated "control plane pause based
>>>>>>>> mechanism" per RFC 8651.  Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> For example, a credit-window
>>>>>>>> scheme for destination-specific flow control which provides aggregate
>>>>>>>> flow control for both modem and routers has been proposed in
>>>>>>>> [I-D.ietf-manet-credit-window], and a control plane pause based
>>>>>>>> mechanism is defined in [RFC8651].
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>> For example, a credit-window
>>>>>>>> scheme for destination-specific flow control that provides aggregate
>>>>>>>> flow control for both modems and routers has been proposed in
>>>>>>>> [Credit-Window-Extension], and a mechanism referred to as the
>>>>>>>> Control-Plane-Based Pause Extension is defined in [RFC8651]. -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 2:  We had trouble determining what is listed 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> this sentence.  We updated as follows.  If this is incorrect, please
>>>>>>>> clarify the text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> This means that the use of FIDs, TIDs and the
>>>>>>>> association of a TID to a DLEP destination enables a modem to share
>>>>>>>> or dedicate resources as needed to match the specifics of its
>>>>>>>> implementation and its attached transmission technology.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>> This means that the use
>>>>>>>> of FIDs and TIDs, and the association of a TID to a DLEP destination,
>>>>>>>> enable a modem to share or dedicate resources as needed to match the
>>>>>>>> specifics of its implementation and its attached transmission
>>>>>>>> technology. -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1:  We had trouble following this sentence.
>>>>>>>> Does "framing" mean "frame size" or something else?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> In the example of Ethernet, framing,
>>>>>>>> header and trailer are all included in this count. -->
>>>>>> "framing" is used here as it is used in the Ethernet standard.  I would
>>>>>> prefer to leave this unchanged.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2.1:  We had trouble parsing these sentences.
>>>>>>>> If the suggested text is not correct, please clarify "having data
>>>>>>>> traffic available to send, but no credits available".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Modems will need to balance the
>>>>>>>> load generated by sending and processing credit window increases
>>>>>>>> against a router having data traffic available to send, but no
>>>>>>>> credits available.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Routers will need to balance the load
>>>>>>>> generated by sending and processing credit window requests against
>>>>>>>> having data traffic available to send, but no credits available.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>> Modems will need to balance the
>>>>>>>> load generated by sending and processing credit window increases
>>>>>>>> against a router that has data traffic available to send but no
>>>>>>>> available credits.
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Routers will need to balance the load
>>>>>>>> generated by sending and processing credit window requests against
>>>>>>>> having data traffic available to send but no available credits. -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3:  Does "a Status Data Item" refer
>>>>>>>> specifically to the Status Data Item defined in RFC 8175 - in which
>>>>>>>> case RFC 8175 should be cited here - or does it refer to the Credit
>>>>>>>> Window Status Data Item as defined in this document?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> In particular, the node parsing
>>>>>>>> the Data Item MUST terminate the session with a Status Data Item
>>>>>>>> indicating Invalid Data.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> In particular, the node parsing
>>>>>>>> the Data Item MUST terminate the session with a Status Data Item
>>>>>>>> [RFC8175] indicating "Invalid Data".
>>>>>> It refers to the Status Data Item defined in RFC 8175.  This wording
>>>>>> is fine.  I think it is also ok to remove "; see [RFC8175]" from the
>>>>>> previous sentence if this seems repetitive.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Or possibly:
>>>>>>>> In particular, the node parsing
>>>>>>>> the Data Item MUST terminate the session with a Credit Window Status
>>>>>>>> Data Item indicating "Invalid Data" as defined in [RFC8175]. -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3.1:  As the dashes initially appeared to be
>>>>>>>> minus signs, we changed them to colons.  If this is incorrect, please
>>>>>>>> consider whether these entries could be written in some other way.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We also gave the table a title.  Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>>> If you prefer a different title, please specify.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original (dashes are broken in order to avoid xml2rfc's "Double
>>>>>>>> hyphen within comment" error):
>>>>>>>> Value  Scale
>>>>>>>> - - - - -
>>>>>>>>     0   B - Bytes     (Octets)
>>>>>>>>     1  KB - Kilobytes (B/1024)
>>>>>>>>     2  MB - Megabytes (KB/1024)
>>>>>>>>     3  GB - Gigabytes (MB/1024)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>>>>>>> | Value |          Scale          |
>>>>>>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
>>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>>>>>>> | 0     | B: Bytes (Octets)       |
>>>>>>>> +- - - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - -+
>>>>>>>> | 1     | KB: Kilobytes (B/1024)  |
>>>>>>>> +- - - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - -+
>>>>>>>> | 2     | MB: Megabytes (KB/1024) |
>>>>>>>> +- - - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - -+
>>>>>>>> | 3     | GB: Gigabytes (MB/1024) |
>>>>>>>> +- - - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - -+
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   Table 1: Valid Scale Field Values -->
>>>>>> That table looks good.  No objection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3.1:  Does "Credit Value" specifically refer
>>>>>>>> to the Credit Value field, or does it mean "credit value" as used
>>>>>>>> generally elsewhere in this document (e.g., "appropriate credit
>>>>>>>> values" as written in Section 2)?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> If the resulting
>>>>>>>> Credit Value results in the credit window exceeding the represented
>>>>>>>> Credit Window Max Size, the Credit Window Max Size field value is
>>>>>>>> used as the new credit window size. -->
>>>>>> It means "credit value" as used generally elsewhere and should not be
>>>>>> capitalized.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> If the resulting
>>>>>> credit value results in the credit window exceeding the represented
>>>>>> Credit Window Max Size, the Credit Window Max Size field value is
>>>>>> used as the new credit window size.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3.2:  Because this sentence as written
>>>>>>>> indicated that the data plane state is updated as needed, we changed
>>>>>>>> "are" to "is" accordingly (also per "In both cases, a router MUST
>>>>>>>> also ensure that any data plane state, e.g.,
>>>>>>>> [I-D.ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control], that is associated with
>>>>>>>> the TID is updated as needed." in
>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification, where it cites this
>>>>>>>> document).  If this is incorrect, please clarify what is being
>>>>>>>> updated as needed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> If the traffic classification information is located, the
>>>>>>>> router MUST ensure that any data plane state that is associated with
>>>>>>>> the TID and its corresponding FIDs are updated as needed (per
>>>>>>>> Section 2.1).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>> If the traffic classification information is located, the
>>>>>>>> router MUST ensure that any data plane state that is associated with
>>>>>>>> the TID and its corresponding FIDs is updated as needed (per
>>>>>>>> Section 2.1). -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3.3:  Does "a Credit Window Status Data Item
>>>>>>>> or items" mean "one or more Credit Window Status Data Items" here, or
>>>>>>>> does "or items" refer to some other types of items other than Data
>>>>>>>> Items?  We ask because we see "Credit Window Status Data Item(s)" in
>>>>>>>> the next sentence.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original (the next sentence is included for context):
>>>>>>>> When a Credit Window Grant Data Item is received in other
>>>>>>>> message types, the receiving router MUST send a Credit Window Status
>>>>>>>> Data Item or items reflecting the resulting Credit Window value of
>>>>>>>> the updated credit window.  When the Credit Grant Data Item is
>>>>>>>> received in a Destination Up Message, the Credit Window Status Data
>>>>>>>> Item(s) MUST be sent in the corresponding Destination Up Response
>>>>>>>> Message.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> When a Credit Window Grant Data Item is received in other
>>>>>>>> message types, the receiving router MUST send one or more Credit
>>>>>>>> Window Status Data Items reflecting the resultant Credit Window
>>>>>>>> value of the updated credit window. -->
>>>>>> This means "one or more Credit Window Status Data Items".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> For each Credit Window Grant Data Item received in other
>>>>>> message types, the receiving router MUST send a Credit Window Status
>>>>>> Data Item reflecting the resulting Credit Window value of
>>>>>> the updated credit windows.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3.5:  Should "credit request" be "credit
>>>>>>>> window request" as used generally elsewhere in the text?  We don't
>>>>>>>> see "credit request" used anywhere else in this document or group of
>>>>>>>> documents (Cluster 541 /
>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=3DC541).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> A special FID value, as defined below, is used to
>>>>>>>> indicate that a credit request is being made across all queues. -->
>>>>>> Yes, it should be "credit window request".
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> A special FID value, as defined below, is used to
>>>>>> indicate that a credit window request is being made across all queues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3.5:  We do not see a Type field in RFC 
>>>>>>>> 8175,
>>>>>>>> but we see a "Data Item Type" field.  May we update as suggested
>>>>>>>> (per Section 11.3 ("DLEP Generic Data Item") of RFC 8175), to
>>>>>>>> distinguish this definition from the definitions of Length in
>>>>>>>> Sections 11.1 ("DLEP Signal Header") and 11.2 ("DLEP Message Header")
>>>>>>>> of RFC 8175, which do not mention excluding a "Type" field?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> As specified in [RFC8175], Length is the number of octets in the
>>>>>>>> Data Item, excluding the Type and Length fields.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>> As specified in [RFC8175], Length is the number of octets in the
>>>>>>>> Data Item, excluding the Data Item Type and Length fields. -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3.5:  We changed "Credit Increment" to 
>>>>>>>> "credi=
>>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>>> window increment" here, as we could not find the initial-capitalized
>>>>>>>> form elsewhere in this document, in the group (cluster) of related
>>>>>>>> documents, or in any published RFC to date.  This update is also in
>>>>>>>> line with this sentence from Section 2.2.1:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A modem receiving this
>>>>>>>> message MUST respond with a Credit Control Response Message based on
>>>>>>>> the received message and Data Item and the processing defined in
>>>>>>>> Section 2.2.2, which will typically result in credit window
>>>>>>>> increments being provided.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> A modem receiving this Data Item MUST provide a Credit Increment for
>>>>>>>> the indicated credit windows via Credit Window Grant Data Items
>>>>>>>> carried in a new Credit Control Message.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>> A modem receiving this Data Item MUST provide a credit window
>>>>>>>> increment for the indicated credit windows via Credit Window Grant
>>>>>>>> Data Items carried in a new Credit Control Message. -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.4:  We changed "the mismatch of 
>>>>>>>> capabilities"
>>>>>>>> to "any mismatch in capabilities" per
>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-ether-credit-extension.  Please let us know any
>>>>>>>> objections.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>> either case, the mismatch of capabilities SHOULD be reported to the
>>>>>>>> user via normal network management mechanisms, such as the user
>>>>>>>> interface or error logging.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>> either case, any mismatch in capabilities SHOULD be reported to the
>>>>>>>> user via normal network management mechanisms, such as the user
>>>>>>>> interface or error logging. -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Section 4:  We had trouble following "some updated
>>>>>>>> references to external documents listed below" in this paragraph.
>>>>>>>> It appears that "external documents" is intended to refer to
>>>>>>>> [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and [IEEE-8802-1X].
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> However, we see that [RFC8175] cites [IEEE-802.1X] ("IEEE Standards
>>>>>>>> for Local and metropolitan area networks-Port-Based Network Access
>>>>>>>> Control"), but this document cites [IEEE-8802-1X] ("IEEE/ISO/IEC
>>>>>>>> International Standard-Telecommunications and exchange between
>>>>>>>> information technology systems-Requirements for local and
>>>>>>>> metropolitan area networks-Part 1X:Port-based network access
>>>>>>>> control").
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> May we update as suggested?  If not, please clarify the text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175], with
>>>>>>>> some updated references to external documents listed below, can be
>>>>>>>> applied to this document.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>> The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175],
>>>>>>>> along with the latest versions of [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and
>>>>>>>> [IEEE-8802-1X] at the time of this writing, can be applied to this
>>>>>>>> document. -->
>>>>>> The IEEE documents should not be referenced in this sentence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175],
>>>>>> along with the latest version of [BCP195] at the time of this writing,
>>>>>> can be applied to this document.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] [IEEE-802.1AE]:  The title listed here does not match
>>>>>>>> the title found at the provided URL.  Is the intent here to
>>>>>>>> specifically point to Amendment 4 (in which case the citation string
>>>>>>>> should be changed to [IEEE-802.1AEdk-2023] and the URL should be
>>>>>>>> changed to <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10225636>), or would
>>>>>>>> you prefer to list [IEEE-802.1AE] per
>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> [IEEE-802.1AE]
>>>>>>>>        "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area networks-
>>>>>>>>        Media Access Control (MAC) Security Amendment 4: MAC
>>>>>>>>        Privacy protection",
>>>>>>>>        <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8585421>.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As listed in the edited copy of
>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17:
>>>>>>>> [IEEE-802.1AE]
>>>>>>>>        IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
>>>>>>>>        networks-Media Access Control (MAC) Security",
>>>>>>>>        DOI 10.1109/IEEESTD.2018.8585421, IEEE Std 802.1AE-2018,
>>>>>>>>        December 2018,
>>>>>>>>        <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8585421>. -->
>>>>>> I don't think it's necessary to specify amendment 4.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> New:
>>>>>> [IEEE-802.1AE]
>>>>>>        IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
>>>>>>        networks-Media Access Control (MAC) Security",
>>>>>>        DOI 10.1109/IEEESTD.2018.8585421, IEEE Std 802.1AE-2018,
>>>>>>        December 2018,
>>>>>>        <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8585421>. -->
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] Appendix B:  We changed "traffic classification data 
>>>>>>>> sub
>>>>>>>> items" to "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Items" per
>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification and the rest of this
>>>>>>>> group (Cluster 541 /
>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=3DC541) of documents.
>>>>>>>> Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> [I-D.ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification] defines the traffic
>>>>>>>> classification data sub items such as DiffServ code points that map
>>>>>>>> to the FIDs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>> [RFC9892] defines the Traffic
>>>>>>>> Classification Sub-Data Items, such as DSCPs, that map to the FIDs. -->
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 20) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
>>>>>>>> online Style Guide at
>>>>>>>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>,
>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature
>>>>>>>> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for
>>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
>>>>>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
>>>>>> Reviewed.  I haven't found anything that does not comply with the NIST
>>>>>> guidance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Please let us know if any changes are needed for the
>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> a) The following terms were used inconsistently in this document.
>>>>>>>> We chose to use the latter forms.  Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Additional Credit (field name, i.e., "Additional Credit:") /
>>>>>>>> Additional Credits ("Additional Credits field")
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> credit based flow control / credit-based flow control (added hyphen)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Credit-Based Flow Control (in text) / credit-based flow control
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Credit Control message (2 instances) / Credit Control Message
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Credit Control Response message (1 instance) /
>>>>>>>> Credit Control Response Message
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Credit Window size (1 instance, i.e., "a Credit Window size") /
>>>>>>>> credit window size (7 instances, e.g., "an initial credit window
>>>>>>>> size") (used generally throughout Section 2)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> data item / Data Item (per the rest of this document and per this
>>>>>>>> group (cluster) of documents)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> different Credit windows / different credit windows
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Messages / messages ("common Messages", "No messages")
>>>>>>>> (We changed "common Messages" to "common messages".)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Window Association Data Item (2 instances in Appendix B) /
>>>>>>>> Credit Window Association Data Item (10 instances in text,
>>>>>>>> the table entry in the IANA Considerations section, and
>>>>>>>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/dlep-parameters/>)
>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> b) The following term appears to be used inconsistently in this
>>>>>>>> document.  Please let us know which form is preferred.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Credit Window / credit window (used generally, e.g., "associated
>>>>>>>> Credit Window", "associated credit window",
>>>>>>>> 'logical "Credit Window(s)s"')
>>>>>>>> (Note:  We also see 'logical "Credit Windows"' in
>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-manet-dlep-da-credit-extension.  Otherwise, all of the
>>>>>>>> documents in this group of documents use the lowercase form
>>>>>>>> "credit window" when used generally.)
>>>>>> Let's use lowercase "credit window" when used generally.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> c) Please let us know how/if the following should be made consistent:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Credit Grant Data Item (3 instances in text) /
>>>>>>>> Credit Window Grant Data Item (~13 instances in text) /
>>>>>>>> Grant Data Item (2 instances in text) ("each Grant Data Item",
>>>>>>>> "or Grant Data Item")
>>>>>>>> Suggested, assuming that these different forms all refer to the
>>>>>>>>  same type of Data Item:  Credit Window Grant Data Item, per
>>>>>>>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/dlep-parameters/>.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alternatively, please let us know if the IANA entry needs to
>>>>>>>> be changed (e.g., from "Credit Window Grant" to "Credit Grant"
>>>>>>>> or simply "Grant", noting that any such change would not match
>>>>>>>> the format of the other entries on the page.) -->
>>>>>> These can all be changed to "Credit Window Grant Data Item".

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