On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 05:59 -0800, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> I have responded to more than one note below.
> 
> Rick Barnes wrote:
> >...I am confused did Daniel write a chapter that can be used as a basis
> >for a Math guide? We could remove the meat from the Writer guide and put
> >it in a separate guide with references to the Math guide from the other
> >component guides.
> 
> Yes, the V2 chapter was published in late January. It includes 12 pages of 
> introductory "how to" information and 12 pages of reference tables.
> 
> Removing the reference tables from the chapter in the Writer Guide sounds 
> reasonable, but I would not like to see the other part cut down.
> 
> >... to keep
> >things simple by removing redundancy in all of the guides and using a
> >central source of information that each guide would point to (the Math
> >guide).  It would seem odd if the Writer guide had a strong write up of
> >the Math component and the Impress or Draw guides simply deferred
> >details to the Math guide...wouldn't it?
> 
> No, it would not seem odd to me. Here is my reasoning:
> I want to have a chapter on Templates and Styles in each of the guides. The 
> information on these topics in the Writer Guide will be more detailed than 
> in the other guides (comprising 4 chapters in total), because more people 
> (esp. new users) use Writer. So, for example, the Writer Guide has Daniel's 
> "Introduction to Styles" chapter, which I would not include in the other 
> guides. But a chapter analogous to one of my other styles chapters from the 
> Writer Guide should be included.
> 
> I think Math is much the same. Given that the "how to" part of the Math 
> chapter in the Writer Guide is only 12 pages, I see no reason not to repeat 
> it in the guides for Calc, Impress and Draw -- perhaps slightly shortened 
> or modified to include anything specific to the other components.
> 
> >... Presentations, especially those written in academia
> >by and for students frequently use equations and formulas (I've seen
> >them often in Finance, Engineering and Computer Science course
> >presentations)...I've used formulas more in presentations than in text
> >documents (but that was as an instructor...
> 
> Thank you for your observations. I'm still in the information-gathering 
> stage, so that definitely helps me see things from a different point of 
> view and get a better idea of how to proceed.
> 
> I'd love to hear from some other people about how they (or the people they 
> work with) use Math.
> 
> >Let me know if you want me to write an outline for your approval. I can
> >do it fairly quickly.
> 
> Yes, I would like to see an outline. I think that would help all of us work 
> out what's the best way to go.
> 
> Regards, Jean 
> 
Jean, et al,

After looking over Daniel's chapter on Math objects, I can't find
anything to add to it.  It would be an excellent "standalone" chapter,
with very minor revisions. So what I am saying is we already have a
basic outline for the Math guide...it could possibly be divided into
chapters, but that might be making something complicated out of a simple
idea.

The only comment I have on this...and I know it is a little late, but it
was before my time.  There is a Note in the chapter:

"The equation editor is for writing equations in symbolic form (as in
equation 1). If you want to evaluate a numeric value, see the Calc
Guide."

Since this is a "Writer" chapter I am assuming the reference is to
Writer's inability to "evaluate a numeric value".

However, Writer tables provide the ability to treat the cells of a table
much like those of a spreadsheet. From the table object toolbar you can
insert functions and create formulas like in Calc...there is, however, a
limited number of functions, but it can be done (10+ functions and 10+
operators).

BTW, is there a proposed Writer chapter on using tables?

-- 
Regards,

Rick Barnes
www.nostabo.net

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