Hi Rich,
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: R J Scheuerle Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el: lunes 27 de mayo de 2002 17:52
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto: RE: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...
>
>
> Read the replies again.
What didn't I understand in:
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You're quite right in chastising us. We should be more responsive.
I think we're all pretty busy in one way or another. For myself, handl=
ers
aren't my forte, so I was hoping someone else would respond to your not=
es
(that's not an excuse, just a reason). The fellow that I was hoping WO=
ULD
respond is in a weeklong session of meetings, so he's been rather
incommunicado. If you haven't heard from any of us by the middle of ne=
xt
week, please feel free to slap us again.
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> We only have a half-dozen active
> committers. This
> does affect the kinds of messages on axis-dev, and it does affect our
> responsiveness. We are certainly not excluding anyone from being a
> committer. We would like to have more committers.
If you want to see it that way. Jakarta-cactus has barely two active developers, and they are extremely responsive to either users and developers. Jakarta-log4j doesn't have much more. The Axis 'Who we are' page lists these folks:
# Vahe Amirbekyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Russell Butek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Wouter Cloetens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Glen Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Doug Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Matt Duftler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Steve Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Rob Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Tom Jordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Jacek Kopecky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Ravi Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Berin Loritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# George Matkovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Kevin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Bill Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Yuhichi Nakamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Ryo Neyama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Glyn Normington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [WebLog]
# Igor Sedukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Rich Scheuerle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Richard Sitze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# James Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If all of them are not active or interested any more, it looks as one more sign that the Axis community does not work.
> There is some friction on the forums and chats from time to
> time, but there
> is also much cooperation. Everyone is working hard to make
> Axis a better
> product.
Ok, I'm not trying to argue. I was asked the question further below and I tried to answer as best I could. I'm sure you cooperate between yourselves, but what I see from the outside is a complete lack of interest in anything but "null parameter does not work against .NET" messages.
> (I am glad there is some friction. I want a forum where
> developers can
> have disagreements. I don't want to work with a bunch of "shrinking
> violets".)
Un saludo,
Alex Fernández.
> > I would be grateful if you could spell out why you think Apache Axis
> > 'sucks'? As an Axis committer I am aware of some major
> > deficiencies, but
> > perhaps you had other things in mind. Please copy axis-dev on
> > your reply as
> > I'm sure the other developers would welcome specific criticisms.
