I second what you say Augusta. I have cases in my family tree where children shared NO surnames with either parent. My 4th G grandfather was Antonio Caetano de Vasconcellos. His parents were Antonio Pimentel Velho (end of line) and Anna Pimentel. None of Anna's grandparent's were Vasconcellos (or even) Pimentel (another end of line). What is even more interesting is that in my research, I discovered a second cousin of my paternal grandfather Francisco Vitorino de Vasconcellos by the name of Anna Laureana de Vasconcellos. Neither of her parents were Vasconcellos, nor were there any Vasconcellos in the previous 6 generations.She is, interestingly, a descendant of the sister of my 5th G grandmother Anna Pimentel!! My theorey is that somewhere back up that Pimentel line there is a Vasconcellos. Unfortunately, I have found no records to prove it, nor I'm likely to. Oh to have time machine!!!
John Vasconcelos -----Original Message----- From: augustae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 1:55 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fw: Francisco José and Engrácia Rosa P.S. You've got to keep on your toes with this research....even different siblings (of the same parents) took (or were given) different family name combinations !! BTDT, Augusta ----- Original Message ----- From: Maria Lima To: azores Sent: Thursday, 21 August, 2008 11:54 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fw: Francisco José and Engrácia Rosa The resa: I know the first names of this couple match and also the locations and the years... but in my head, I just can't believe that Antonio Jose de Lima's grandfather and great grandfathers had another last name, that they were not de Lima's. I have to find those certificates. This is the first time I've researched an ancestor this far back, so who knows; anything is possible. I would just be shocked. (I don't know why; maybe it's because then we wouldn't really know where the last name came from. Well, I know it came from his mother, Marianna's line. But why would he not take the last name of the father? Isn't that odd? Why would Antonio Jose de Lima's, b 1803 be a de Lima from his mother's side and not his father. I have to try to find some certificate with his father's last name, the Francisco Jose who was married to Marianna Joaquina de Lima. I know they named their son, Antonio, after her father, Antonio. You seem so certain; probably because you've been at this for a long time and perhaps you've seen this before? Warm regards, Maria Elena 2008/8/21 Theresa Entin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- Original Message ----- From: Raposo, John M (DSS) To: Theresa Entin Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: RE: Francisco José and Engrácia Rosa I'm sure they do. From: Theresa Entin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:39 AM To: Raposo, John M (DSS) Subject: Re: Francisco José and Engrácia Rosa Thanks John, I had that info and I do think they connect to my Santa Maria people. Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: Raposo, John M (DSS) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:10 AM Subject: Francisco José and Engrácia Rosa Dear Theresa: I am sending this from my office, so I dare not send it to the list. The Commissioner would not be happy with all the replies from something called the Azores List. Please pass this info onto Maria Lima; I've found another child of Francisco José and Engrácia Rosa getting married in S. José. Notice the connection to Santa Maria: § 1.º 1 - Manuel Lopes Abalo, do Porto Formoso, casou com Maria de Paiva. Tiveram: 2 - Baltazar de Paiva, natural do Porto Formoso e morador na Ribeirinha. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira Grande a 13.5.1679 com Maria Tavares Tiveram: 3 - João de Paiva, natural da freguesia Matriz Ribeira Grande e morador em Santa Clara depois de casado em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 8.7.1713 com Maria da Arruda . Tiveram: 4 - Aleixo Tavares casou em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 2.2.1755 com Maria de Jesus, filha de Francisco de Amaral e Francisca de Medeiros. Tiveram: 5 - José T avares, que casou em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 8.7.1782 com Bárbara Jacinta, da freguesia Matriz de Vila Franca, filha de Manuel Correia e Maria de Medeiros. Tiveram: 6 - Ana Miquelina Tavares, que casou com 16 anos em S. José de Ponta Delgada a 18.9.1808 com Boaventura José de 26 anos, natural de Santo Espírito, Ilha de Santa Maria, filho de Francisco José e Engrácia Rosa. Abraços! John Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1625 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:04 AM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
