Hi Charlotte,
Well that explains why I could not find the birth in Estrela. It looks like I will have to find the birth of Maria and or the marriage which I have good reason to believe is in Estrela. If Maria was 11 and they were 33 & 38 then that means they most likely married when they were 22 and 27 which is in the range when most marriages took place in the Acores. It should not be difficult finding them. Another thing infant mortality was high back then they may have had other children that died. And I have records of woman having children well into their 40's. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of White Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Tavares Ferreira I rechecked the birth date for Joseph Tavares Ferreira and it was Feb. 22, 1882. So he must have been born in Hawaii and not the Azores. He did have an older sister Mary ( Maria) but I do not think she would have been 11 years older. It made me wonder if there might have been other children that they left behind as 33 and 38 seem rather old to be starting families. Thank you again for your help. Aloha _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Tavares Ferreira Hi Charlotte, I hope to get back to the FHC next week and look some more, the record has to be there. As for as only three traveling in the party and the name Manuel I just looked at the record again and this morning I see it is Maria (they used an abbreviation when I first looked at it I thought it was Manuel). Also it has her as 11 years old not 11 months. Perhaps your grandfather was considered a baby in arms and not counted. I will see if I can find her birth. I will let you know when I find some more. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of White Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Tavares Ferreira Thank you so much! I have not been able to find out any info. I do not know anything about a Manuel. Grandpa had a brother John and a sister. Grandpa was about 3 when he arrived here. Thank you so much. Any other info. would be appreciated. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Tavares Ferreira Hello Charlotte, I finally have time to do some research and I looked at the Ribeira Grande records today to try and find your family. I spent most of the time looking for the birth of a Jose born Feb 22 1879 but came up empty. What I have found tonight is the passport record of your great grandfather Jose Tavares Ferreira, the link below should take you to the CCA site and the record It is image 00000066. From what I was able to read it has a date of 23 Apr 1881, Jose Tavares Ferreira son of Jose Tavares Ferreira and Joanna Maria., age 38, married from Ribeira Grande NS Estrela, a stone mason, wife's name Maria Augusta, age 33, and it looks like Manuel 11 months Just 3 traveled in the party. It also has the ship Suffok. When I get back to the FHC I am going to see if I can find the birth of Manuel. http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL18 75-1883_item1/P67.html Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

