Robin,

 

In my opinion, Joao and Matilde, are brother and sister of the father (Jose)of 
the baby(Jose) and they (Jose, Joao and Matilde) are the children of the babies 
grandfather, Jose, who is dead at the time this baby is born.

 

Nancy
 


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To: [email protected]
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:39:01 -0700




Love it!  At least he didn't spill his beer!  Yes, I'm seeing what your seeing. 
 I'm confused on one part though - here's part of a prior post on Jose (who's 
married to Ana below) baptism.  The items I've highlighted in red are confusing 
to me.  I know this is my GGGrandfather's baptism because I have a delayed 
Azores baptism (which I can't find at the moment) that speaks of his life 
threatening condition and why he was baptisted when he was.  Matilde and Joao 
are brother and sister of whom?  Is it also saying that the Jose born in 1825 
was deceased (basically deceased when his son was born)?  :)  Robin Borba 
Besotes 




Jose, son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and (his wife) Custodia Candida, from the 
Parish of Sao Bartolomeu dos Regatos of Ilha Terceira (Terceira Island), born 
in February 10, 1850, he was baptized at home because of life threatening, by 
me the Vicar bellow mentioned (or signed) on the 21st of the same month and 
year. He was brought to the Church where I applied all
the rituals of the church and the saint oil (sacred oil) and witnessed Joao da 
Rocha de Borba, and his sister Matilde Candida, son and daughter of Jose da 
Rocha de Borba already deceased, all resident in this same Parish. I wrote and 
signed this record
Vicar Joao Coelho da Mae de Deus

----- Original Message ----- 
From: [email protected] 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: 2010-06-15 21:13
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Guidance - da Rocha de Borba abt. 1850's


Hi Robin,
Your son "ran with the Bulls" and my husband ran from the bulls.  He went to 
get a beer and on his way back to where we were standing , the bulls started 
coming down the street, He ran like heck, jumped the fence and never spilled a 
drop of his beer. Scared him though!
 
I 'm glad you found the connection.  I have it this way, Tell me if you agree
 
your Grandfather Lawrence Borba b. 19222
your Ggrandfather Antonio da Rocha Borba married to Mary Matos of Sao Jorge 
island
your GG    b. 1850           Jose da Rocha da Borba married to Anna Furtado 
Jorge do Souto Salas, Faial
your GGG b. 1825           Jose da Rocha da Borba married to Custodia Candida
your GGGG  abt. 1788     Francisco da Rocha da Borba married to Ana Theodora m 
1813
your GGGGG  a. 1760      Jose da Rocha Borba married to Marianna Josefa 
(couldn't find the marriage)
 

 b. 1685  Joseph da Rocha Borba m.1716 (Agueda do Espirto Santo (2) Luzia 
Josefa m.1735
 b. a. 1650 Josepha da Rocha m. 1679 to Maria da Borba Vieira
                 Bras Gil m. Catarina da Roch;
 
Note: Joseph da Rocha Borba and Agueda do E.S. had only 2 children that I could 
find. Joseph b. July 1, 1722 and Marianna b. Jan 18, 1727. Agueda died in 1730. 
Maybe this Joseph is one of the missing grandparent. I think there are two 
missing generations.
 

Good luck
Helen



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