Robin,

 

In my opinion, Joao is a son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and since his brother, 
Jose uses that name he probably did too....but one of my grandfather's from Sao 
jorge used a different last name than his brother...but it's probable that he 
used the same name......Candida is probably, from what I saw in the records, 
just a second "first" name as Joao said...like Maria de Jesus or Ana Joquina. 
Candida was popular. 

 

Nancy 
 


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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:54:25 -0700




Nancy,
 
One more thought - would you think Joao is a da Rocha de Borba?  What about 
Matilde?  Since she was Matilde Candida - would Candida be a middle name or 
last name?  If it's a last name then would she be the sister of Ana Candida 
(the babies mother).  Both still  being the Uncle and Aunt of different side of 
the family.  I'm just not sure where to put these two in my records.  Thank you 
again, Robin Borba Besotes

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From: nancy jean baptiste 
To: azores group 
Sent: 2010-06-16 09:46
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba

Robin,
 
In my opinion, Joao and Matilde, are brother and sister of the father (Jose)of 
the baby(Jose) and they (Jose, Joao and Matilde) are the children of the babies 
grandfather, Jose, who is dead at the time this baby is born.
 
Nancy
 


From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:39:01 -0700




Love it!  At least he didn't spill his beer!  Yes, I'm seeing what your seeing. 
 I'm confused on one part though - here's part of a prior post on Jose (who's 
married to Ana below) baptism.  The items I've highlighted in red are confusing 
to me.  I know this is my GGGrandfather's baptism because I have a delayed 
Azores baptism (which I can't find at the moment) that speaks of his life 
threatening condition and why he was baptisted when he was.  Matilde and Joao 
are brother and sister of whom?  Is it also saying that the Jose born in 1825 
was deceased (basically deceased when his son was born)?  :)  Robin Borba 
Besotes 




Jose, son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and (his wife) Custodia Candida, from the 
Parish of Sao Bartolomeu dos Regatos of Ilha Terceira (Terceira Island), born 
in February 10, 1850, he was baptized at home because of life threatening, by 
me the Vicar bellow mentioned (or signed) on the 21st of the same month and 
year. He was brought to the Church where I applied all
the rituals of the church and the saint oil (sacred oil) and witnessed Joao da 
Rocha de Borba, and his sister Matilde Candida, son and daughter of Jose da 
Rocha de Borba already deceased, all resident in this same Parish. I wrote and 
signed this record
Vicar Joao Coelho da Mae de Deus

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