Robin,
In my opinion, Joao is a son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and since his brother, Jose uses that name he probably did too....but one of my grandfather's from Sao jorge used a different last name than his brother...but it's probable that he used the same name......Candida is probably, from what I saw in the records, just a second "first" name as Joao said...like Maria de Jesus or Ana Joquina. Candida was popular. Nancy From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:54:25 -0700 Nancy, One more thought - would you think Joao is a da Rocha de Borba? What about Matilde? Since she was Matilde Candida - would Candida be a middle name or last name? If it's a last name then would she be the sister of Ana Candida (the babies mother). Both still being the Uncle and Aunt of different side of the family. I'm just not sure where to put these two in my records. Thank you again, Robin Borba Besotes ----- Original Message ----- From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores group Sent: 2010-06-16 09:46 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba Robin, In my opinion, Joao and Matilde, are brother and sister of the father (Jose)of the baby(Jose) and they (Jose, Joao and Matilde) are the children of the babies grandfather, Jose, who is dead at the time this baby is born. Nancy From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] da Rocha de Borba Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:39:01 -0700 Love it! At least he didn't spill his beer! Yes, I'm seeing what your seeing. I'm confused on one part though - here's part of a prior post on Jose (who's married to Ana below) baptism. The items I've highlighted in red are confusing to me. I know this is my GGGrandfather's baptism because I have a delayed Azores baptism (which I can't find at the moment) that speaks of his life threatening condition and why he was baptisted when he was. Matilde and Joao are brother and sister of whom? Is it also saying that the Jose born in 1825 was deceased (basically deceased when his son was born)? :) Robin Borba Besotes Jose, son of Jose da Rocha de Borba and (his wife) Custodia Candida, from the Parish of Sao Bartolomeu dos Regatos of Ilha Terceira (Terceira Island), born in February 10, 1850, he was baptized at home because of life threatening, by me the Vicar bellow mentioned (or signed) on the 21st of the same month and year. He was brought to the Church where I applied all the rituals of the church and the saint oil (sacred oil) and witnessed Joao da Rocha de Borba, and his sister Matilde Candida, son and daughter of Jose da Rocha de Borba already deceased, all resident in this same Parish. I wrote and signed this record Vicar Joao Coelho da Mae de Deus -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."

