Hi Gayle, Thank you for the insights. I was at such a loss to comprehend this record. This priest's handwriting is just awful. Your confirmation of the date opens up further mystery since I was looking for the marriage of my 4th ggrandmother, Marianna Clara's parents. On Mariana's marriage record in June 9, 1800 her age is given as 26 years old and I spent a whole day looking at all the baptisms in Velas for 1770"s and never could find her....so I thought maybe if I could find her parents marriage and look for other siblings I could find her along the way or perhaps other clues. I started with 1750 on a whim thinking that I'd be too far back but at least I wouldn't miss it by not going far enough back. I was very surprised to find them in 1753 but I'm sure it's them. On Marianna's marriage to Antonio Pereira her parents are given as Joam de Sousa Cardoso/a? and Isabel do Rosario and since men sometimes take their mother's name as well as their father's I think that's what he did. That puts their marriage 21 years before Marianna's presumed birth date but I've seen that with my Pereira family so I know it's possible. With your information I'm wondering if I should look in Santo Amaro for Marianna's birth instead of Velas....maybe they moved there and that's why I couldn't find her anywhere in Velas in the 1770's. Thanks for your help....now I know Isabel's parents names. I wish the records from these times gave the ages of the couple since it's a valuable clue when looking for birth records! Also, I couldn't tell if Joam was the son Of Joam Teixeira or Pereira and now Peixeiro? is in the mix. Perhaps someone else will give insight into that surname. I have Peixodo's in my record but I've never seen Peixeiro before. I'll spend tomorrow looking for Marianna in Santo Amaro baptisms for 1770's and hope I have more luck! On another note, I remember we're cousins from Candelaria and while at the conference in SLC I discovered 2 more cousins...sister who were there, also with Candelaria ancestors...perhaps they match with you as well. Thanks again,Nancy Jean
> From: gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help! > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 00:15:33 +0000 > > Nancy, > > I'm going to take a wild stab at the basics and let others shoot me down: > 9 Jan 1753 for the date. > Joam de Sousa, son of Joam (Peixeiro ) and Luzia Cardoza, natural of Sto. > Amaro > and > Isabel do Rosario, daughter of Joam Machado Costa and (Micaela) do Rosario of > this matrix. > > Among the signatures at the end of the record it shows a Joam Machado (Rocha) > Costa along with Vital Pereira Fagundes. > > Gayle > > From: nancy jean baptiste > <fishsongf...@hotmail.com<mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> > Reply-To: <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> > Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 14:36:00 -0500 > To: azores group <azores@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help! > > Greetings Group, > > I have found my 5th ggrandparents marriage record in Velas.....I'm having a > very hard time translating his writing and all help would be greatly > appreciated. > > Velas, Sao Jorge...marriages for 1734-1772 page 0102, Joam de Sousa and > Isabel do Rosario > > Thank you in advance, > Nancy Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
