*It is common knowledge that during the 18th and 19th and possibly the early 20th centuries, young men of military age, in some cases left the Azores on American whaling ships without any documents whatsoever. My maternal grandfather left the island of Flores on a whaling ship in 1869. The whalers would anchor off the sparsely populated north western shore of the island and take on recruits. There were patrol boats based at Lajes and Santa Cruz on the east shore but the whalers would come in at night between patrols. I don't think the American government at that time was as fussy about letting people in as they were looking for people to populate the west. As the family story goes, my grandfather went in to the Sonora County courthouse in 1873, filled out some papers and became a US citizen. I can't vouch for the details as the people involved have been dead for years. * *John Vasconcelos*
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:29 PM, "E" Sharp <[email protected]> wrote: > Rick, > > There were women on the ship also. I am not sure if they all sneaked onto > the ship in Faial under darkness also and avoided getting a Passportes > there or what. The reason they came under darkness in the US is because > the ship's owners had to pay so much tax or whatever they called it upon > landing per person over the age of either 16 or 18 and I guess they did not > want to pay it. > > "E" > > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> *Thinking about this I would say they would have had to have papers to >> leave the Acores. If they had papers (a Passport) from the Acores why would >> they have to sneak in to the US at that time if you showed up and got >> through immigration you could get in no quotas required. Perhaps they were >> avoiding military service so they sneaked out of the Acores and not having >> a passport they had to sneak into the us. Perhaps they could not get >> through Immigration because of a physical problem.* >> >> * * >> >> *Rick* >> >> ** ** >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Spring, TX***** >> >> *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * >> >> ** ** >> >> * * >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *"E" Sharp >> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2013 3:04 PM >> *To:* azores >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Coming to US illegally - Passporte question >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Here's a question for you all including those living in the Azores. If >> someone entered to the US illegally, under dark of night, ca 1900 do you >> think they would they have gotten a Passportes before they left Faial? The >> ship left Faial illegally and there were about 40 passengers on the ship. >> **** >> >> **** >> >> "E"**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> **** >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> >> > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
