And on this note, it should be fair warning to everyone that I believe the 
CCA books are (c) CCA. Note that this is my personal opinion, as I am in no 
way associated with the CCA. I only have a (very) similar case of a 
newspaper published in Évora in 1897-1902 by my great-great-grandfather 
where I paid for and got a release from the local Archive (the Public 
Library of Évora) on their copyright of this work.

Even for books older than 100 years (as all of them are!). You can 
rightfully ask WHY?

Note that it is not the  book itself being copyrighted in this case. The 
copyright is being applied to the scanning process: those images are the 
ones copyrighted. You're free to take your own images and make them public 
domain, as the book itself isn't copyrighted anymore.

Only the CCA is legally able to create a DVD with the images of all those 
books and sell it, or someone authorized by them to do so.

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt

On Saturday, 8 February 2014 19:20:43 UTC+1, want2beunique wrote:
>
> I agree that the interpretation is far too strict. For what we copy and 
> for our use in genealogy, most should not have issues. 
>
> Having said this, we could run afoul depending on how the material is used 
> and its impact on the copyright owner's ability to make money from their 
> work. An example might be copying a several key pages of a book and posting 
> to Ancestry.com where ancestry "sells" access to the pages through their 
> pay wall. While the original use for scholarly work may fit the fair use 
> doctrine ( 
> http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
> ),
> the fact that Ancestry is profiting might be an issue. Number of pages or 
> amount is not always a measure used. 
>
> Also keep in mind that the "container" of the information makes a 
> difference. Taking names and dates is factual information and, depending on 
> circumstances, should not have a copyright issue. Copying book images has a 
> much higher potential to run afoul of copyright law than using the raw 
> information. 
>
> Here is another great article on copyright in today's Wall Street Journal. 
> Sorry, Writers, but I'm Siding With Google's Robots 
> http://on.wsj.com/1ebhRHI
>
> Bill
>
> On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Marilyn Thompson <[email protected]<javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> I do not chime in too often, but this article from "Legal Genealogists" is 
> not fully correct. The large "library" does have scanners, with copyright 
> notices posted next to them. 
>
> As a genealogist by degree (BA), there is a % of a copyrighted book that 
> can be copied. I am away from my information right now, but if memory 
> serves me right it is about 20% of a book may be copied. 
>
> It is not a problem to copy a few pages of a book, so do not panic if you 
> have made copies.
>
> Marilyn
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> *Hi All,*
>>
>>  
>>
>> *This is worth knowing about something to consider when we start making 
>> copies.*
>>
>>  
>>
>> *http://goo.gl/vZZlVb <http://goo.gl/vZZlVb> *
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>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>
>> *Spring, TX*
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