Hello Mara. Sorry for the late reply, I sleep in the day and work a strange mid shift, so all of my posts are usually in the late night to early morning hours. That's very interesting because I was actually going to ask you about your surname, Vicente. I have family in Hawaii with the surname Vicente. Francisco de Medeiros Jardim and Maria Vicente's daughter, Margaret Jardim (later Jardin) married a Pereira.(1924). But, It does seem that your husband and I do share some commonality. Your husband is a descendent of one of Joao and Engracia's children? Which child, if you don't mind? I'm from his son Francisco. Btw, I also have Barbara de Sousa and Manuel in my family tree.
Also, I wanted to run something by you and get your opinion. I look at Joao da Silva's marriage to Engracia (1759) and I notice that Manuel da Sylva and Josepha are alive, but in in 1766, Manuel's daughter, Maria da Silva's marriage, it states that both Manuel and Josepha have passed on. So, I look in the obitos, between 1760 and 1766, and this is what I find...they're listings are next to each other, (1761) the same month and the same year, I can't tell the day, but it looks pretty close if not a few days apart. But, Josepha is listed as Josepha de Arruda. So, I check a few baptism records for the children of Manuel and Josepha, and there is a Francisco de Arruda listed in the bottom part, under testamentos. He is listed as one of the fathers of a godparent, Maria Vieira. here is Josepha and Manuels death records, Josepha is very bottom, left side of page, and Manuel is very top, right side of page. http://goo.gl/4lGAKe here is the other Joseph's baptism, there were two children named Joseph http://goo.gl/DCA0W6 and here is Maria's baptism http://goo.gl/7fHypo one of the godparents is Maria Vieira, daughter of Francisco de Arruda. I'm very curious as to Manuel's and Josepha's cause of death. I can't read portuguese,very well, but I'm learning. I use google translate for the profession of one of my ancestors (Campónio) and it tells me my ancestor was a "redneck" haha, I though that was funny. I find it means a peasant or farmer. That makes sense because my family farmed cotton and other crops for generations I also wanted to say thanks to you and others who helped clarify Josepha's surname, Vieira On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:07:56 AM UTC-8, Mara wrote: > > Aaron, > > I took a look at my tree and guess what Manuel da Silva and Josefa Breysa? > are direct ancestor's of my husband through their son Joao da Silva married > to Engracia de Sousa, daughter of Manuel Furtado Rebelo and Barbara de > Sousa. Manuel and Josefa are the end of this line. > > > > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Aaron Pereira > <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Thanks Cheri and Mara. I will try to find their death records, maybe >> that will give me a little more info. I won't be able to go to Salt Lake, >> too much work. I will plan to go next year. My goal for this is year is >> to travel to the Azores. >> >> >> On Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:40:54 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Aaron P, >>> >>> It's Engracia. They make the handwritten C so big that it looks like an >>> L or F. >>> >>> Back to the marriage. If it's there, it's a partial fragment and neither >>> Canto (in the 1880s) or Rodrigo Rodrigues (in 1929) could read it. I have >>> the handwritten copy for the Achada marriages. None of the Manuel Silvas >>> matched (if the bride's name didn't crumble away). I looked at all the >>> brides names, and there wasn't a single Josepha/Josefa. There was a Manuel >>> ____ or two and the bride's name was gone. I did type the index up in an >>> Excel spreadsheet. >>> >>> If you're coming to Salt Lake for the Conference in April, I will bring >>> the handwritten index with me. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>> Tainhas, Achada >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
