There is no reference to cause of death and such references seldom appear, at least as far as pre-1900 church records go. I have seen references like, "died at sea," "fell off a cliff," "died in front of his house where he was found."
I have a Francisco de Arruda married with Maria Vieira in Achada Grande Nov 18, 1697. He is son of Antonio de Arruda and Maria Alvares. She is daughter of Miguel de Paiva and Brites Vieira. Francisco is native of Algarvia, then part of Nordestinho but resident of Feiteiras, Achada Grande. The others are natives and residents of Feteiras, Achada Grande. They are probably related; while the first marriage of Manuel Arruda may be missing, you may still be able to prove the relationship by digging up some baptisms. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P23.html JR On Monday, February 24, 2014 4:23:45 AM UTC-5, Aaron Pereira wrote: > > > Hello Mara. > > Sorry for the late reply, I sleep in the day and work a strange mid shift, > so all of my posts are usually in the late night to early morning hours. > That's very interesting because I was actually going to ask you about your > surname, Vicente. I have family in Hawaii with the surname Vicente. > Francisco de Medeiros Jardim and Maria Vicente's daughter, Margaret Jardim > (later Jardin) married a Pereira.(1924). But, It does seem that your > husband and I do share some commonality. Your husband is a descendent of > one of Joao and Engracia's children? Which child, if you don't mind? > I'm from his son Francisco. Btw, I also have Barbara de Sousa and Manuel > in my family tree. > > Also, I wanted to run something by you and get your opinion. I look at > Joao da Silva's marriage to Engracia (1759) and I notice that Manuel da > Sylva and Josepha are alive, but in in 1766, Manuel's daughter, Maria da > Silva's marriage, it states that both Manuel and Josepha have passed on. > So, I look in the obitos, between 1760 and 1766, and this is what I > find...they're listings are next to each other, (1761) the same month and > the same year, I can't tell the day, but it looks pretty close if not a few > days apart. But, Josepha is listed as Josepha de Arruda. So, I check a > few baptism records for the children of Manuel and Josepha, and there is a > Francisco de Arruda listed in the bottom part, under testamentos. He is > listed as one of the fathers of a godparent, Maria Vieira. > > here is Josepha and Manuels death records, Josepha is very bottom, left > side of page, and Manuel is very top, right side of page. > > http://goo.gl/4lGAKe > > here is the other Joseph's baptism, there were two children named Joseph > > http://goo.gl/DCA0W6 > > and here is Maria's baptism > http://goo.gl/7fHypo > > one of the godparents is Maria Vieira, daughter of Francisco de Arruda. > > I'm very curious as to Manuel's and Josepha's cause of death. I can't > read portuguese,very well, but I'm learning. I use google translate for > the profession of one of my ancestors (Campónio) and it tells me my > ancestor was a "redneck" haha, I though that was funny. I find it means a > peasant or farmer. That makes sense because my family farmed cotton and > other crops for generations > > I also wanted to say thanks to you and others who helped clarify Josepha's > surname, Vieira > > > On Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:07:56 AM UTC-8, Mara wrote: >> >> Aaron, >> >> I took a look at my tree and guess what Manuel da Silva and Josefa >> Breysa? are direct ancestor's of my husband through their son Joao da Silva >> married to Engracia de Sousa, daughter of Manuel Furtado Rebelo and Barbara >> de Sousa. Manuel and Josefa are the end of this line. >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Aaron Pereira <perei...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thanks Cheri and Mara. I will try to find their death records, maybe >>> that will give me a little more info. I won't be able to go to Salt Lake, >>> too much work. I will plan to go next year. My goal for this is year is >>> to travel to the Azores. >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 22, 2014 9:40:54 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>> >>>> Aaron P, >>>> >>>> It's Engracia. They make the handwritten C so big that it looks like an >>>> L or F. >>>> >>>> Back to the marriage. If it's there, it's a partial fragment and >>>> neither Canto (in the 1880s) or Rodrigo Rodrigues (in 1929) could read it. >>>> I have the handwritten copy for the Achada marriages. None of the Manuel >>>> Silvas matched (if the bride's name didn't crumble away). I looked at all >>>> the brides names, and there wasn't a single Josepha/Josefa. There was a >>>> Manuel ____ or two and the bride's name was gone. I did type the index up >>>> in an Excel spreadsheet. >>>> >>>> If you're coming to Salt Lake for the Conference in April, I will bring >>>> the handwritten index with me. >>>> >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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