The 29 Apr 1702 marriage between Manuel do Rego Baldaia and Barbara Rodrigues is the link I was looking for. This record ties their son Joao do Rego and his second wife Maria de Sao Jose to my line through their daughter Joanna do Rego Baldaia. The Excel chart helps me track the names. The only question is unquestionable proof that Maira Bicuda and Maria de Sao Jose are the same person. I believe she is as after searching the records thoroughly for the time period and the 24 Sep 1853 marriage is the only record that fills the bill.
I have attached a GEDCOM from the CM Cd that Fr. Viveiros did. It gives the line back to Diago Pires do Rego Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need second set of eyes Estrela Baptism 1759 I think Barbara Pacheco is this same Barbara Rodrigues http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1697-1718/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1697-1718_item1/P59.html Test- Padre Francisco Nunes Rocha and Padre Domingos Luiz, sacristao certified 1) oct 18- 1799, Anna Joaquina, 2) April 29- 1776 Manoel do rego Baldaia, 3) Jun 18- 1882, Jose Francisco do Rego JR On Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:08:57 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: This is the Obito of Isabel de Paiva on 10 Aug 1753 – he remarries on 24 Sep 1753 – must have needed a baby sitter real bad. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-O-1749-1768/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-O-1749-1768_item1/P46.html lower left. The Joao do Rego in your chart below was already married to Rosa Maria or Rosa Francisca before the death and remarriage of this Joao do Rego. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> ] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:35 PM To: [email protected] <javascript:> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need second set of eyes Estrela Baptism 1759 Joao do Rego Baldaia and Maria de Sao Jose are my 6th Great Grandparents. Manuel da Silva Tavares and Rosa Jacinta m 8 Dec 1838 in Ribeirinha. The great grandparents of Manuel are Joao and Maria de Sao Jose. If Joanna do Rego Baldaia is the daughter of Joam do Rego (Rego Baldaia according to CM) and Maria Bicuda (AKA Maria de Sao Jose) then the line goes back to 1380 and Diago Pires do Rego. The CM disk does not have the second marriage of Joao do Rego to Maria Bicudo. He does have one daughter from the first marriage Maria Rosa born about 1753. I am going to have to look for the death of his first wife Isabel da Incarnaciao Paiva and see if the dates line up. From his second marriage I have found two daughters Anna (Anna Felecia do Rego Baldaia) and Joanna (Joanna Baptista do Rego Baldaia). Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: [email protected] <javascript:> [[email protected] <javascript:> ] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:43 PM To: [email protected] <javascript:> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need second set of eyes Estrela Baptism 1759 There is one more family in that time frame, Rick. Which family in Ribeirinha led you to this Rego Baldaia line?: Ancestors of Rosa Maria or Francisca Generation No. 1 1. Rosa Maria or Francisca, born in Ribeira Grande- Matriz; died in Ribeira Grande- Matriz. She was the daughter of 2. Manuel da Ponte Espiga and 3. Vitoria Luis. She married (1) Joao da Costa Braga 28 Dec 1743 in Ribeira Grande- Matriz. He was born in Conceicao de Ribeira Grande, and died Bef. 09 Dec 1752. He was the son of Manuel de Braga and Maria Lopes or Medeiros. She married (2) Joao do Rego 09 Dec 1752 in Ribeira Grande- Matriz. He was born in Ribeira Grande, Estrela. He was the son of Joao do Rego Abrao and Maria Francisca. Notes for Rosa Maria or Francisca: She married Joao da Costa Braga as Roza Maria filha de Manoel Afonso defunto e Vitoria Luis nats RGE She married Joao do Rego as Roza Francisca, viuva. He was filho de Joao do Rego Abram, defunto e Maria Francisca nats RGE Marriage Notes for Rosa and Joao Costa Braga: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1736-1751_item1/P129.html Test- Antonio de Araujo e Joao Dias moradores nesta mesma villa (RGE) Marriage Notes for Joao Rego and Rosa: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1751-1768/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1751-1768_item1/P24.html Test- Miguel da Costa Carreyro and Manoel Rodrigues Coito Generation No. 2 2. Manuel da Ponte Espiga, born in Ribeira Grande- Matriz. He married 3. Vitoria Luis. 3. Vitoria Luis, born in Ribeira Grande- Matriz. Child of Manuel Ponte Espiga and Vitoria Luis is: 1 i. Rosa Maria or Francisca, born in Ribeira Grande- Matriz; died in Ribeira Grande- Matriz; married (1) Joao da Costa Braga 28 Dec 1743 in Ribeira Grande- Matriz; married (2) Joao do Rego 09 Dec 1752 in Ribeira Grande- Matriz. On Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:58:30 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: I found the names on the CM disk from Fr. Viveiros Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need second set of eyes Estrela Baptism 1759 Both Bicudo and Rego Baldaia are big names, yet I could not find it in Carlos Machado. I also find it perplexing that your ancestors did not use the more illustrious name of Bicudo. If have that Bicudo usage later on, that's a pretty good evidence. So keep searching, you are almost there. JR On Thursday, December 18, 2014 12:05:23 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Yes I was looking at that record last night and believe it is the marriage I am looking for. I am going to explore it some more today. I think one of their descendants used the Bicudo name in a record I looked at. Need to find that also. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need second set of eyes Estrela Baptism 1759 Richard, are there variations in the name of Maria de Sao Jose, the spouse of Joao do Rego Baldaia. Does she go by other names? Because Rego Baldaia is big name that should be found in RR and even C. Machado. There is one record in RGE, Sept 24, 1753, Joao do Rego Baldaia cc Maria Bicudo. He was viuvo of what looks like Izabelinha de Payva or Umbelina de Paiva, buried in RG Matriz. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1751-1768/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1751-1768_item1/P34.html JR On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:01:59 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Thanks JR, I should have caught that as this writer spreads his “A”s out. That is one child more Child from this family I found I am still looking for a Maria and the marriage of the parents. I have one possibility but need to study it some more. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JR Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 10:19 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need second set of eyes Estrela Baptism 1759 I am almost got lost there. I went looking for Maria. The name of the child is Anna, the rest looks good to me. If you look further, the capital m is quite different. Certified 2nd of Oct- 1777. JR On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:41:03 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Hi I just want to verify this record the writing is hard to follow. I Have Maria daughter of Joam do Rego Baldaia and Maria de Sao Jose, born 10 Oct 1759 and baptized 14 Oct 1759. Parents are from NS Estrela http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1757-1764/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1757-1764_item1/P68.html upper right entry Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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