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From: Annie Carvalho <[email protected]>
To: azores <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 24, 2015 4:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho (Flores) and Thomas (Pico) Families
who settled in San Joaquin Valley
Eric,
I want to be sure I understand you.
Are you saying this family you gave me information for is not my family?
Because the names and dates fit, but my family did NOT go to Hawaii, though I'm
in contact with a good friend in Hawaii whose husband is a Carvalho.
And are you saying that
Maria de Jesus de Freitas and
Maria de Jose de Freitas are the same person because a different priest did
the recording?
Thank you for all the information. I really appreciate it.
I figured out after a bit that the paternos and maternos were the grandparents.
Do you live in Flores? Because my Tio Alfredo just passed away there a few
years ago and I still have a cousin, Joaquina, who lives there with her husband
whose last name is Felix. I'm not sure what became of the house that Tio
Alfredo lived in, but it is the same house his parents lived in and I have both
an old photo of the house waaaaay back when and then a new photo I took when I
was in the Azores a few years ago.
A photo of that house and of my grandfather and his family can be seen on my
blog at this link: Our Precious Past
Again, thank you for the information.
Annie
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM, luiznoia . <[email protected]> wrote:
Annie,
The Carvalho family I worked on came in 1911 to Hawaii, then settled in the
Niles, Alameda, California
The parish church for the freguisia of Bretanha in the concelho of
Ponta Delgada, island of Sao Miguel is called Nossa Senhora de
Ajuda, so the records read Ajuda de Bretanha.
Nossa Senhora de Ajuda means Our Lady of Help ( or assistance). There is
another freguisia in the neighboring concelho of Ribeira Grande called
Fenais de Ajuda, so it's important to know which one to look in.
Paternos- the father's parents, Materno-the mother's parents
On differences in names in records- It's common that a persons baptism record,
marriage (casamento), and death record (obito) are going to be written by
different priests
The way they record the names does tend to change. In the marriage record, she
was recorded as Maria Jose de Freitas, yes, same person
The baptism record shows the given name at birth, but the middle name used
later is often the confirmation name. The surname can be the father's, mother's
, any of the
grandparents, or a combination of those, and maybe an alcunha (nickname)
added.
Eric Edgar
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
Repost for Annie Carvalho, anniesantiago13 at gmail.com
(Note: Because these were multiple messages sent within minutes of each other,
they were being flagged as spam. All responses are being placed into 1 message
on the correct thread. Thank yous were deleted).
Yes, Emma and her parents are full Azorian Portuguese. Their name was Tomas,
and was changed to Thomas.
They were from the island of Pico.
Are you asking for dates for Emma and JJ Carvalho?
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John, did your uncle own a gas station in Hanford?
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Some of these names are very familiar.
I will look at this closely today.
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I was surprised the passport didn't have her birthdate on it.
Did you see it?
I knew she was born in Santa Cruz - that was a mistake on my part.
Thanks for catching it.
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Eric, that Carvalho family from San Jorge may be my ex-husband's family.
I will contact him and let him know.
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Is Bretanha, Ajuda a place?
I thought it was a family surname.
I found this name carved in the door at the Bishop's prison in St. Jean Pied de
Port when I walked the Camino Santiago.
I have a photo.
I'll try to find it and post it.
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Eric,
When you say "paterno" I'm not sure who this is?
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My grandmother is Maria de JESUS de Freitas, not Maria de Jose de Freitas.
Is this the same person?
Annie
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