Thanks Ricardo, Barcelos is a city where I've had my eye on for over a year now as being a significant source of settlers to Pico island along with Porto and Viana do Castelo just my gut and looking at various things. Would have been a significant population center during the time of settlement. The collecting of settlers I think would have been done along the rivers on small boats, Barcelos is near the Cavado river very convenient for recruitment.
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 5:16:30 PM UTC-7, Ricardo Costa de Oliveira wrote: > > Hello Antonio > The colorized tables of the J1-M365 project > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/m365/default.aspx?section=ycolorized > > We have two cases from Ilha do Pico, Criação Velha, kits 394895 and 365808. > 394895 13 22 15 10 12-19 11 16 11 13 11 29 20 8-9 11 11 25 14 20 25 > 14-15-16-17 10 9 21-22 15 13 17 21 31-38 12 10 > 365808 13 22 15 10 12-18 11 16 11 13 11 29 20 8-9 11 11 25 14 20 25 > 14-15-16-18 10 9 21-22 15 13 18 21 31-38 12 10 > They have only three mismatches in 37 (37/34). A genetic distance probably > related to an earlier Povoador from the Ilha do Pico. > They share the same DYS458=20 as a marker here associated only with the > Ilha do Pico. 458=20 is different from all other results of the Project > and so far exclusive of Ilha do Pico. > Kit N54547 is from the Ilha de São Miguel. I don't know the freguesia. The > genetic distance from N54547 to 394895 is 4 (37/33) and the genetic > distance from N54547 to 365808 is 7 (37/30) > We have two individuals from the Minho, kits 73612 and 373835, curiously > both have 391=11 > Kit 82640 if from Ourense, Galicia, just across the border of Portugal. > > In my case, 73612, my conventional genealogy points to São Romão de > Milhazes, Barcelos, close to where once upon a time stood the Castelo de > Faria. That's a rugged hill ideal for defense named Franqueira. I think my > Y-DNA had been there for a good time and they were from the lugar do > Guilhado, they used the name Guilhado and Galhardo there, in Lisbon and in > Brazil. We can find in the neighbourhood names like Gilmonde, name probably > associated with the Suebi. All gutural names. > > Abraço > > Ricardo > > > ------------------------------ > > *De:* [email protected] <javascript:> > *Enviada:* Segunda-feira, 6 de Julho de 2015 22:42 > *Para:* [email protected] <javascript:> > *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: J1-M365 type in two Azorean Islands: > Ilha de São Miguel e Ilha do Pico > > That is very interesting Ricardo I had noticed some time ago that Sao > Miguel and Pico shared more DNA than I had expected. Do you happen to know > which freguesias those Azorean samples trace their most distant known > paternal ancestors to? Do you have any indication of which area of the > Minho? > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
