Ricardo,
You said: <<We have two cases from Ilha do Pico, Criação Velha...>>
One kit lists Sao Mateus and the other lists Lajes. I don't know where you
got Criação Velha from.

The N kit and the kit you compared yourself to are not part of the Azores
project. :(
Cheri

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Ricardo Costa de Oliveira <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Antonio
> The colorized tables of the J1-M365 project
> https://www.familytreedna.com/public/m365/default.aspx?section=ycolorized
>
> We have two cases from Ilha do Pico, Criação Velha, kits 394895 and 365808.
> 394895 13 22 15 10 12-19 11 16 11 13 11 29 20 8-9 11 11 25 14 20 25
> 14-15-16-17 10 9 21-22 15 13 17 21 31-38 12 10
> 365808 13 22 15 10 12-18 11 16 11 13 11 29 20 8-9 11 11 25 14 20 25
> 14-15-16-18 10 9 21-22 15 13 18 21 31-38 12 10
> They have only three mismatches in 37 (37/34). A genetic distance probably
> related to an earlier Povoador from the Ilha do Pico.
> They share the same DYS458=20 as a marker here associated only with the
> Ilha do Pico. 458=20 is different from all other results of the Project
> and so far exclusive of Ilha do Pico.
> Kit N54547 is from the Ilha de São Miguel. I don't know the freguesia. The
> genetic distance from N54547 to 394895 is 4 (37/33) and the genetic
> distance from N54547 to 365808 is 7 (37/30)
> We have two individuals from the Minho, kits 73612 and 373835, curiously
> both have 391=11
> Kit 82640 if from Ourense, Galicia, just across the border of Portugal.
>
> In my case, 73612, my conventional genealogy points to São Romão de
> Milhazes, Barcelos, close to where once upon a time stood the Castelo de
> Faria. That's a rugged hill ideal for defense named Franqueira. I think my
> Y-DNA had been there for a good time and they were from the lugar do
> Guilhado, they used the name Guilhado and Galhardo there, in Lisbon and in
> Brazil. We can find in the neighbourhood names like Gilmonde, name probably
> associated with the Suebi. All gutural names.
>
> Abraço
>
> Ricardo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *De:* [email protected]
> *Enviada:* Segunda-feira, 6 de Julho de 2015 22:42
> *Para:* [email protected]
> *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: J1-M365 type in two Azorean Islands:
> Ilha de São Miguel e Ilha do Pico
>
> That is very interesting Ricardo I had noticed some time ago that Sao
> Miguel and Pico shared more DNA than I had expected. Do you happen to know
> which freguesias those Azorean samples trace their most distant known
> paternal ancestors to? Do you have any indication of which area of the
> Minho?
>
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Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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