This is an exciting mystery!
Nancy Jean

Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:50:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta
From: noblankt...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Here are the parents Massachucetts marriage record. The fact that Mary is one 
year older than Jose shows up in most of their records. That's unique, as 
anyone who's been at this awhile knows. Ages are highly variable
even when you know you have the right people. 
I previously posted their daughter Mary's birth record from Taunton, 1903. 
 I know , different cities, but these were mill workers, so when demand slowed 
, they shut off the mills and people went looking for work elsewhere. My ggg 
grandparents worked in the Lowell Mills  about 1890, but their kids were born a
 few years later in Swansea, thrn a year later, out to California. 
The two marriage records show the registration for marriage, the other the 
recording of the ceremony.

There may be  good clue here that Maria's father is shown as Jose Conceicao, 
that her name listed wasn't just the religious suffix. 
The next step is to get them identified on the passport leaving the Azores.

Eric Edgar
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:19 PM, nancy jean baptiste <fishsongf...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:



Eric,
Dave and I show as cousins. My great grandmother, Catarina Moreira Cabral was 
from Santa Maria and there are some Coelho's in her line. Not sure how many of 
Dave's other matches have Santa Maria. The only other Coelho I have is my 
paternal great grand father from Sao Jorge had a first wife from Terceira who 
had the surname Coelho...not sure right now if it was her father or mothers 
name....they had 2 children.....a Manuel and a Jose....never found the first 
wife's death ANYWHERE....but he went to Ma. and remarried my 
Catarina....perhaps, somehow there's a connection.....long shot.
Nancy Jean

Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 13:26:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta
From: dvco...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Eric,
Thank you so much for your perseverance on my behalf. 

Incredible!!   I am certain that Belmira is our Velma.  The 1931 newspaper 
divorce notice would indicate that she is the one!!   

There is so much information that I am overwhelmed right now.   

Thank you,  Dave

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM, luiznoia . <noblankt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dave, 
 I believe I have good lead, someone not looked at before. 
Belimira Cotta, shown on the 1910 census in Kaweah, Tulare county. This is in 
the Sierra east of Visalia.
Her parents are listed as Joe M and Mary Courter ( That's how Cotta might sound 
to an American from a recently arrived Azorean)
She's born in California ( age shows 2 months) Parents arrived in 1902. 
There is a Massachucetts birth record to match her sister Mary that confirms 
the  Cotta name
. 

The only time the name is seen again is the 1923 Portuguese newspaper marriage 
article, Belmira Cotto to Manuel Coelho
In 1930 , Joe M and Mary Cotta are in Tulare township with a grandson, Edward 
Coelho, born about 1926.
In 1940 , a 15 yr old  Eddie Coelho turns up in the San Bernardino County Boys 
Detention Center. His birthplace is blank, but says he lived in that county in 
1935
It seems it could be another Eddie, except that a Joe M Cotta died in San 
Bernardino county in 1961, suggesting residency or a visit there.
If I have the correct Joe and Mary Cotta, then their buried in the Tulare city 
cemetery. 

Eric Edgar






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