Yes, I've been searching for the marriage for Manuel Dutra da Rosa, who died 4 July 1774, and Catarina, who died 12 Jan 1769, find out who Catarinas parents are. I was hoping the record in question matched...but maybe not. I will keep at it. I don't give up😉
Thanks! On Feb 22, 2016 8:14 PM, "JR" <[email protected]> wrote: > If you ask me it looks like Fco da Roza e sua mer. Ma. da Roza. Because at > first I thought it was Roza but could also be Pra. But the preposition 'da' > is never in front of Pereira, so it has to a name that goes with the said > prep. I studied it a bit, the first letter looks like his unique stylized R > and z, so I would venture Roza. > > Have seen any people with these names before, or even alternates, meaning > that this couple could have used other names? > > I am somewhat confused. You mean his name is not Jose Dutra Andrade? cc > Catarina da Rosa? Is it Manuel Dutra Roza? > > JR > > On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 8:02:30 PM UTC-5, Becky M. wrote: >> >> Thank you JR. I do have 3 of their children, but none list >> grandparents...I have Manuel Dutra da Rosa's parents, but not Catarina's. I >> have looked for Catarinas baptismal record, but can't be sure which one is >> hers unless I can match it to her marriage record...so on this one, I am >> going in circles, lol...I have a possible death record which lists Manuel >> as her husband, and approx age when she passed, but the are several >> Catarinas during her approximate birth time. That's why I hoped someone >> would be able to glean more from the marriage record to confirm her parents >> names. >> Thank you for all the suggestions! >> Becky >> On Feb 22, 2016 2:07 PM, "JR" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And here is Roza, born- Oct 7- 1761. the father's name may be Jose >>> Garcia Moutozo, and this is spelled out in this baptism and partly shown in >>> the difficult marriage record- Mouto__? Likely the same name. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1760-1791/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1760-1791_item1/P13.html >>> >>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 3:46:38 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: >>>> >>>> This looks like it might be yours. Notice on side margin after Dutra is >>>> the prep 'da' which may be da Andrade as below. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1706-1760/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1706-1760_item1/P213.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Maria, fa. de Jozeph Dutra de Andrade e sua mer. Catherina Roza da >>>> Sylv.ra freg.es >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ffreg.es&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH8-S2p6abg7JMJUgLECcTIdZtBWA> >>>> desta >>>> da. mres. Sim.a Trindade do lugar da Cappelo desta Ilha do Fayal nasceo aos >>>> quatro dias de mez de Abril de 1759, bap- (7-4-1757), Pad- Bartholomeu G.ra >>>> (Gracia?) fo. de Mel. Gra de Andrade e sua mer. Maria Gte (Goularte) de >>>> Faria e Anna Ma. da Sylv.ra fa. de Anto. Sylv.ra de Faria e sua mer. Luzia >>>> Sylv.ra todos freg. desta ditta par.... >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 3:12:25 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have a suggestion. Since you have quite a bit of info, including the >>>>> date of May 9- 1757, why not go to baptisms and look for children of this >>>>> couple in the first few years and you will likely get your answer. >>>>> >>>>> JR >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:15:46 AM UTC-5, Becky M. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I was giving my history of family and names for my background...I am >>>>>> asking for help reading this record, specifically the bride and grooms >>>>>> names and their parents. I didn't want to be too wordy and list my entire >>>>>> tree to go back that far, but did want to include where I started from. I >>>>>> taught myself to read these records. I think in this record I am having >>>>>> trouble with, I see the groom: _____ Dutra, son of Jose Goularte or >>>>>> Garcia, >>>>>> deceased, and his wife_____ Maria Dutra, and Catarina da Rosa daughter of >>>>>> Francisco da Rosa and his wife Maria da____.... Can anyone correct what I >>>>>> have if wrong, or fill in the blanks?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Becky >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't see a question here. You talk about your husband being raised >>>>>> by another family and you mention the mid-1800s. Then you post a record >>>>>> from the mid 1700s. Somehow you are able to make your way back 250 years, >>>>>> but I am not clear as to what you can and cannot read. You must be able >>>>>> to >>>>>> read a lot to be back to the mid 1700s. 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