Ok, as long as you are certain it is Catarina and not Conceicao. What baptism do you have that matches the parents you have. I have never quite seen anything like this, so many similar names!
There is this record, just as difficult: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P29.html Manuel Dutra de Andrade filho de Inacio? Dutra de Andrade cc __ de Andrade? filha de __ Pereira and _ _?, June 14- 1754? illegible JR On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 12:29:25 PM UTC-5, Becky M. wrote: > > Yes, I've been searching for the marriage for Manuel Dutra da Rosa, who > died 4 July 1774, and Catarina, who died 12 Jan 1769, find out who > Catarinas parents are. I was hoping the record in question matched...but > maybe not. I will keep at it. I don't give up😉 > > Thanks! > On Feb 22, 2016 8:14 PM, "JR" <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> If you ask me it looks like Fco da Roza e sua mer. Ma. da Roza. Because >> at first I thought it was Roza but could also be Pra. But the preposition >> 'da' is never in front of Pereira, so it has to a name that goes with the >> said prep. I studied it a bit, the first letter looks like his unique >> stylized R and z, so I would venture Roza. >> >> Have seen any people with these names before, or even alternates, meaning >> that this couple could have used other names? >> >> I am somewhat confused. You mean his name is not Jose Dutra Andrade? cc >> Catarina da Rosa? Is it Manuel Dutra Roza? >> >> JR >> >> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 8:02:30 PM UTC-5, Becky M. wrote: >>> >>> Thank you JR. I do have 3 of their children, but none list >>> grandparents...I have Manuel Dutra da Rosa's parents, but not Catarina's. I >>> have looked for Catarinas baptismal record, but can't be sure which one is >>> hers unless I can match it to her marriage record...so on this one, I am >>> going in circles, lol...I have a possible death record which lists Manuel >>> as her husband, and approx age when she passed, but the are several >>> Catarinas during her approximate birth time. That's why I hoped someone >>> would be able to glean more from the marriage record to confirm her parents >>> names. >>> Thank you for all the suggestions! >>> Becky >>> On Feb 22, 2016 2:07 PM, "JR" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> And here is Roza, born- Oct 7- 1761. the father's name may be Jose >>>> Garcia Moutozo, and this is spelled out in this baptism and partly shown >>>> in >>>> the difficult marriage record- Mouto__? Likely the same name. >>>> >>>> JR >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1760-1791/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1760-1791_item1/P13.html >>>> >>>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 3:46:38 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This looks like it might be yours. Notice on side margin after Dutra >>>>> is the prep 'da' which may be da Andrade as below. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1706-1760/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1706-1760_item1/P213.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maria, fa. de Jozeph Dutra de Andrade e sua mer. Catherina Roza da >>>>> Sylv.ra freg.es >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ffreg.es&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH8-S2p6abg7JMJUgLECcTIdZtBWA> >>>>> desta >>>>> da. mres. Sim.a Trindade do lugar da Cappelo desta Ilha do Fayal nasceo >>>>> aos >>>>> quatro dias de mez de Abril de 1759, bap- (7-4-1757), Pad- Bartholomeu >>>>> G.ra >>>>> (Gracia?) fo. de Mel. Gra de Andrade e sua mer. Maria Gte (Goularte) de >>>>> Faria e Anna Ma. da Sylv.ra fa. de Anto. Sylv.ra de Faria e sua mer. >>>>> Luzia >>>>> Sylv.ra todos freg. desta ditta par.... >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 3:12:25 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a suggestion. Since you have quite a bit of info, including >>>>>> the date of May 9- 1757, why not go to baptisms and look for children of >>>>>> this couple in the first few years and you will likely get your answer. >>>>>> >>>>>> JR >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:15:46 AM UTC-5, Becky M. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was giving my history of family and names for my background...I am >>>>>>> asking for help reading this record, specifically the bride and grooms >>>>>>> names and their parents. I didn't want to be too wordy and list my >>>>>>> entire >>>>>>> tree to go back that far, but did want to include where I started from. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> taught myself to read these records. I think in this record I am having >>>>>>> trouble with, I see the groom: _____ Dutra, son of Jose Goularte or >>>>>>> Garcia, >>>>>>> deceased, and his wife_____ Maria Dutra, and Catarina da Rosa daughter >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Francisco da Rosa and his wife Maria da____.... Can anyone correct what >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> have if wrong, or fill in the blanks?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> Becky >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't see a question here. You talk about your husband being >>>>>>> raised by another family and you mention the mid-1800s. Then you post a >>>>>>> record from the mid 1700s. Somehow you are able to make your way back >>>>>>> 250 >>>>>>> years, but I am not clear as to what you can and cannot read. You must >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> able to read a lot to be back to the mid 1700s. What do you need help >>>>>>> reading? >>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>>>>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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