The Pontes of Maia are most likely related to the Pontes of Ribeira Grande and may even originate there. The Ponte Vidals of Maia almost certainly originate in Ribeira Grande and go back to pre-1600. But this is difficult to prove definitively.
When it come to end of line ancestors (end of records), we all face the same situation. We cannot go back any further. There are many examples where it appears a couple have only one surviving child. Because we may find one marriage. But my experience is that they usually had many children but only one survived and married, or we have no further information to link other people. Your only available choice is to look in Ribeira Grande or Ribeira Seca where there are pre-1660 baptisms. It is possible they lived in said places and eventually settled in Maia. In said villages, you will see a some references to Ribeirinha, a small villa just outside the main village. But there are no separate records for the older period of pre-1700, so again you have to look in Ribeira Grande or Ribeira Seca records. JR On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 8:07:25 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote: > > Hello guys, > > > Thus it is that down the couple Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) and Barbara da > Ponte. > > > The difficulty in moving beyond this couple is that I have wanted for his > life in Maia, and the earliest record of birth available there is 1665. > > > Well, here comes my doubts. > > > I also found the death of Manoel da Costa, Miller, occurred on 10/02/1698 > in Maia, and that death is said that Manoel was buried in the grave of his > father, Gaspar Lourensso (written with two "s" there ). > > > But how to make sure that this Manoel da Costa is even Manoel da Costa > father of Manoel da Costa Carreiro and would have been married to Barbara > da Costa? > > > I noticed a funny thing. > > > I looked ALL marriages registered in Maia, I began searching for a > possible second marriage of Manoel da Costa, to see if, seeking in deaths, > could find a death some Manoel someone widower, I would not have noticed, > but what really got me It caught my attention is that in addition to her > son's wedding, Manoel da Costa Carreiro with Izabel da Costa and then Maria > Ferreira, there is no other wedding any other son of Manuel and Barbara. > > > It is not strange that? In those years an only child. > > > Reviewing Manoel marriage certificate Carreiro da Costa with Izabel da > Costa, it is said that all were Maia, but in fact, the wording is > ambiguous, may or may not be all but a few. > > > Is it not possible, in my view, that seek birth more children couple > Manuel and Barbara Maia because the records do not make possible, but > weddings, ah, that if there were, it would appear. > > > For now, my conclusion is that Manuel and Barbara couple did not live in > Maia, but in some other place, and that would explain even not find even > Barbara's death record , which will not found it. > > > It's more or less what I wanted to share with you to start our > conversation. > > > A hug and be happy to know it. > > > Cesar Pimentel > > [email protected] <javascript:> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
