O segundo casamento de Manoel da Costa a Maria Ferreira, agosto 26- 1702, diz que nubentes foram batizados em Maia, " Onde os contrahentes foi baptizados. "
The second marriage of Manoel da Costa to Maria Ferreira, Aug 26- 1702, says both newllyweds were baptised in Maia, "onde os contrahentes foi baptizados." http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1674-1704/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1674-1704_item1/P73.html JR On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 6:45:04 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote: > > Yes JR, is what I'm doing, because there is no death of any child of this > couple in Maya, or the death of Barbara da Ponte and there is no reliable > death of Manoel da Costa also. > > > Another thing; I noticed is that with regard to female names, certain > parishes prefer one to another . For example , Emilia. Where I found many > Emilias ? In Rosto do Cão, where he sought my ancestress Emilia. > > > Barbara and Agada seems to be a preference of Ribeira Seca. I tell you if > successful. > > > Hugs! > > Cesar Pimentel > > [email protected] <javascript:> > > > ------------------------------ > *De:* JR <[email protected] <javascript:>> > *Enviado:* domingo, 10 de julho de 2016 18:33 > *Para:* Azores Genealogy > *Cc:* [email protected] <javascript:> > *Assunto:* Re: Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) e Bárbara da Ponte > > The Pontes of Maia are most likely related to the Pontes of Ribeira Grande > and may even originate there. The Ponte Vidals of Maia almost certainly > originate in Ribeira Grande and go back to pre-1600. But this is difficult > to prove definitively. > > When it come to end of line ancestors (end of records), we all face the > same situation. We cannot go back any further. There are many examples > where it appears a couple have only one surviving child. Because we may > find one marriage. But my experience is that they usually had many children > but only one survived and married, or we have no further information to > link other people. Your only available choice is to look in Ribeira Grande > or Ribeira Seca where there are pre-1660 baptisms. It is possible they > lived in said places and eventually settled in Maia. In said villages, you > will see a some references to Ribeirinha, a small villa just outside the > main village. But there are no separate records for the older period of > pre-1700, so again you have to look in Ribeira Grande or Ribeira Seca > records. > > JR > > > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 8:07:25 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote: >> >> Hello guys, >> >> >> Thus it is that down the couple Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) and Barbara da >> Ponte. >> >> >> The difficulty in moving beyond this couple is that I have wanted for his >> life in Maia, and the earliest record of birth available there is 1665. >> >> >> Well, here comes my doubts. >> >> >> I also found the death of Manoel da Costa, Miller, occurred on 10/02/1698 >> in Maia, and that death is said that Manoel was buried in the grave of his >> father, Gaspar Lourensso (written with two "s" there ). >> >> >> But how to make sure that this Manoel da Costa is even Manoel da Costa >> father of Manoel da Costa Carreiro and would have been married to Barbara >> da Costa? >> >> >> I noticed a funny thing. >> >> >> I looked ALL marriages registered in Maia, I began searching for a >> possible second marriage of Manoel da Costa, to see if, seeking in deaths, >> could find a death some Manoel someone widower, I would not have noticed, >> but what really got me It caught my attention is that in addition to her >> son's wedding, Manoel da Costa Carreiro with Izabel da Costa and then Maria >> Ferreira, there is no other wedding any other son of Manuel and Barbara. >> >> >> It is not strange that? In those years an only child. >> >> >> Reviewing Manoel marriage certificate Carreiro da Costa with Izabel da >> Costa, it is said that all were Maia, but in fact, the wording is >> ambiguous, may or may not be all but a few. >> >> >> Is it not possible, in my view, that seek birth more children couple >> Manuel and Barbara Maia because the records do not make possible, but >> weddings, ah, that if there were, it would appear. >> >> >> For now, my conclusion is that Manuel and Barbara couple did not live in >> Maia, but in some other place, and that would explain even not find even >> Barbara's death record , which will not found it. >> >> >> It's more or less what I wanted to share with you to start our >> conversation. >> >> >> A hug and be happy to know it. >> >> >> Cesar Pimentel >> >> [email protected] >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
