Acho que este é obito de Manuel Costa Carreiro cc Isabel da Costa
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/P98.html


Óbitos RGSP , em Abril de 25 a 1726, faleceu , Mel da Costa Carreiro (
Bartao na margem ) , de Idade de outenta annos , nao fez testamento...

Registro não indicar o nome da esposa

On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:27 AM, JR <[email protected]> wrote:

> O segundo casamento de Manoel da Costa a Maria Ferreira, agosto 26- 1702, diz 
> que nubentes foram batizados em Maia, " Onde os contrahentes foi baptizados. "
>
>
> The second marriage of Manoel da Costa to Maria Ferreira, Aug 26- 1702, says 
> both newllyweds were baptised  in Maia, "onde os contrahentes foi baptizados."
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1674-1704/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1674-1704_item1/P73.html
>
> JR
>
> On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 6:45:04 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote:
>>
>> Yes JR, is what I'm doing, because there is no death of any child of this
>> couple in Maya, or the death of Barbara da Ponte and there is no reliable
>> death of Manoel da Costa also.
>>
>>
>> Another thing; I noticed is that with regard to female names, certain
>> parishes prefer one to another . For example , Emilia. Where I found many
>> Emilias ? In Rosto do Cão, where he sought my ancestress Emilia.
>>
>>
>> Barbara and Agada seems to be a preference of Ribeira Seca. I tell you if
>> successful.
>>
>>
>> Hugs!
>>
>> Cesar Pimentel
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *De:* JR <[email protected]>
>> *Enviado:* domingo, 10 de julho de 2016 18:33
>> *Para:* Azores Genealogy
>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>> *Assunto:* Re: Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) e Bárbara da Ponte
>>
>> The Pontes of Maia are most likely related to the Pontes of Ribeira
>> Grande and may even originate there. The Ponte Vidals of Maia almost
>> certainly originate in Ribeira Grande and go back to pre-1600. But this is
>> difficult to prove definitively.
>>
>> When it come to end of line ancestors (end of records), we all face the
>> same situation. We cannot go back any further. There are many examples
>> where it appears a couple have only one surviving child. Because we may
>> find one marriage. But my experience is that they usually had many children
>> but only one survived and married, or we have no further information to
>> link other people. Your only available choice is to look in Ribeira Grande
>> or Ribeira Seca where there are pre-1660 baptisms. It is possible they
>> lived in said places and eventually settled in Maia. In said villages, you
>> will see a some references to Ribeirinha, a small villa just outside the
>> main village. But there are no separate records for the older period of
>> pre-1700, so again you have to look in Ribeira Grande or Ribeira Seca
>> records.
>>
>> JR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 8:07:25 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello guys,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thus it is that down the couple Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) and Barbara
>>> da Ponte.
>>>
>>>
>>> The difficulty in moving beyond this couple is that I have wanted for
>>> his life in Maia, and the earliest record of birth available there is 1665.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, here comes my doubts.
>>>
>>>
>>> I also found the death of Manoel da Costa, Miller, occurred on
>>> 10/02/1698 in Maia, and that death is said that Manoel was buried in the
>>> grave of his father, Gaspar Lourensso (written with two "s" there ).
>>>
>>>
>>> But how to make sure that this Manoel da Costa is even Manoel da Costa
>>> father of Manoel da Costa Carreiro and would have been married to Barbara
>>> da Costa?
>>>
>>>
>>> I noticed a funny thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> I looked ALL marriages registered in Maia, I began searching for a
>>> possible second marriage of Manoel da Costa, to see if, seeking in deaths,
>>> could find a death some Manoel someone widower, I would not have noticed,
>>> but what really got me It caught my attention is that in addition to her
>>> son's wedding, Manoel da Costa Carreiro with Izabel da Costa and then Maria
>>> Ferreira, there is no other wedding any other son of Manuel and Barbara.
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not strange that? In those years an only child.
>>>
>>>
>>> Reviewing Manoel marriage certificate Carreiro da Costa with Izabel da
>>> Costa, it is said that all were Maia, but in fact, the wording is
>>> ambiguous, may or may not be all but a few.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it not possible, in my view, that seek birth more children couple
>>> Manuel and Barbara Maia because the records do not make possible, but
>>> weddings, ah, that if there were, it would appear.
>>>
>>>
>>> For now, my conclusion is that Manuel and Barbara couple did not live in
>>> Maia, but in some other place, and that would explain even not find even
>>> Barbara's death record , which will not found it.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's more or less what I wanted to share with you to start our
>>> conversation.
>>>
>>>
>>> A hug and be happy to know it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cesar Pimentel
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>

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