Acho que este é obito de Manuel Costa Carreiro cc Isabel da Costa http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/P98.html
Óbitos RGSP , em Abril de 25 a 1726, faleceu , Mel da Costa Carreiro ( Bartao na margem ) , de Idade de outenta annos , nao fez testamento... Registro não indicar o nome da esposa On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:27 AM, JR <[email protected]> wrote: > O segundo casamento de Manoel da Costa a Maria Ferreira, agosto 26- 1702, diz > que nubentes foram batizados em Maia, " Onde os contrahentes foi baptizados. " > > > The second marriage of Manoel da Costa to Maria Ferreira, Aug 26- 1702, says > both newllyweds were baptised in Maia, "onde os contrahentes foi baptizados." > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1674-1704/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1674-1704_item1/P73.html > > JR > > On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 6:45:04 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote: >> >> Yes JR, is what I'm doing, because there is no death of any child of this >> couple in Maya, or the death of Barbara da Ponte and there is no reliable >> death of Manoel da Costa also. >> >> >> Another thing; I noticed is that with regard to female names, certain >> parishes prefer one to another . For example , Emilia. Where I found many >> Emilias ? In Rosto do Cão, where he sought my ancestress Emilia. >> >> >> Barbara and Agada seems to be a preference of Ribeira Seca. I tell you if >> successful. >> >> >> Hugs! >> >> Cesar Pimentel >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *De:* JR <[email protected]> >> *Enviado:* domingo, 10 de julho de 2016 18:33 >> *Para:* Azores Genealogy >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Assunto:* Re: Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) e Bárbara da Ponte >> >> The Pontes of Maia are most likely related to the Pontes of Ribeira >> Grande and may even originate there. The Ponte Vidals of Maia almost >> certainly originate in Ribeira Grande and go back to pre-1600. But this is >> difficult to prove definitively. >> >> When it come to end of line ancestors (end of records), we all face the >> same situation. We cannot go back any further. There are many examples >> where it appears a couple have only one surviving child. Because we may >> find one marriage. But my experience is that they usually had many children >> but only one survived and married, or we have no further information to >> link other people. Your only available choice is to look in Ribeira Grande >> or Ribeira Seca where there are pre-1660 baptisms. It is possible they >> lived in said places and eventually settled in Maia. In said villages, you >> will see a some references to Ribeirinha, a small villa just outside the >> main village. But there are no separate records for the older period of >> pre-1700, so again you have to look in Ribeira Grande or Ribeira Seca >> records. >> >> JR >> >> >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 8:07:25 PM UTC-4, Cesar Pimentel wrote: >>> >>> Hello guys, >>> >>> >>> Thus it is that down the couple Manoel da Costa (Carreiro) and Barbara >>> da Ponte. >>> >>> >>> The difficulty in moving beyond this couple is that I have wanted for >>> his life in Maia, and the earliest record of birth available there is 1665. >>> >>> >>> Well, here comes my doubts. >>> >>> >>> I also found the death of Manoel da Costa, Miller, occurred on >>> 10/02/1698 in Maia, and that death is said that Manoel was buried in the >>> grave of his father, Gaspar Lourensso (written with two "s" there ). >>> >>> >>> But how to make sure that this Manoel da Costa is even Manoel da Costa >>> father of Manoel da Costa Carreiro and would have been married to Barbara >>> da Costa? >>> >>> >>> I noticed a funny thing. >>> >>> >>> I looked ALL marriages registered in Maia, I began searching for a >>> possible second marriage of Manoel da Costa, to see if, seeking in deaths, >>> could find a death some Manoel someone widower, I would not have noticed, >>> but what really got me It caught my attention is that in addition to her >>> son's wedding, Manoel da Costa Carreiro with Izabel da Costa and then Maria >>> Ferreira, there is no other wedding any other son of Manuel and Barbara. >>> >>> >>> It is not strange that? In those years an only child. >>> >>> >>> Reviewing Manoel marriage certificate Carreiro da Costa with Izabel da >>> Costa, it is said that all were Maia, but in fact, the wording is >>> ambiguous, may or may not be all but a few. >>> >>> >>> Is it not possible, in my view, that seek birth more children couple >>> Manuel and Barbara Maia because the records do not make possible, but >>> weddings, ah, that if there were, it would appear. >>> >>> >>> For now, my conclusion is that Manuel and Barbara couple did not live in >>> Maia, but in some other place, and that would explain even not find even >>> Barbara's death record , which will not found it. >>> >>> >>> It's more or less what I wanted to share with you to start our >>> conversation. >>> >>> >>> A hug and be happy to know it. >>> >>> >>> Cesar Pimentel >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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