Thank you so much for the offer of help! This record is promising, but I'm not going to give up looking.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:13 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy < [email protected]> wrote: > Susan, > > CITCEM is a database created by the University of Minho. They transcribed > parish records. Unfortunately, not all parish records have been done. And, > there are mistakes because many records are in terrible shape. Also, humans > inevitably make errors. > > The record you sent was from the CCA site which shows the actual parish > records that CITCEM used. I tend to use both, which is why I pointed out > the discrepancy. > > My grandmother's family came from Candelaria and Sao Mateus. If I can ever > help, let me know. No guarantees. Especially, where Candelaria is concerned > as its records are in terrible condition and there are missing ones for > several time periods. > > Gayle > > > > On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you for the translation & additional reference. I'm relatively new @ > this, may I ask what CITCEM is? > I got most of my other info on Maria Theresa Maciel from the Sausalito CA > census records online via Ancestry. The estimated birthdate varies, but the > only one that included a month also included a year; Aug 1857, so I was > hoping that was the most accurate. > I don't know if the respondents arbitrarily told the interviewer different > years, or if the interviewers guessed, or couldn't read their own notes, or > whatever? > > On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 11:03:45 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Susan, >> >> I see : Maria, daughter of Joao Sousa Maciel and Marianna da Gloria. She >> was born 10 Dec 1865. Paternal grandparents were Manuel Homem Silveira and >> Marianna Josefa. Maternal grandparents were Antonio (?) and Inacia Balbina. >> Note: I used modern spellings above in Sousa and Inacia. Also, Antonio's >> surname seems to disappear where the page bends inward. >> >> I checked CITCEM but it gives the birthdate in August, which baffles me. >> I am on my iPhone so I often am cautious on being too definitive when >> viewing on a small screen, but, I really see December on the first line. >> I'll go back and see if the birth was four months earlier with the baptism >> much later. Not unheard of, but more often than not just a few days apart. >> >> Gayle >> >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Maria Theresa Maciel is my father's maternal grandmother. I match many >> people via GEDmatch on her line, but since I do not he the names of either >> of her parents, it's hard for me to untangle who she might be connected to. >> >> Can someone please help me translate # 53 on the bottom left? >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ- >> PIEDADE-B-1865-1874/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1865-1874_item1/P38.html >> >> I can recognise the name *Maciel* on the 7th line down. I'm not sure if >> this is our Maria Theresa Maciel because I can't decipher the date? I can >> make out December & Octo for 1800's but the end of the line is blurry. It >> is page 38 of 164 with the date range of 1864 to 1874, so it's in the >> ballpark. Her birth year is estimated to be from 1865 to 1868 from census & >> death record. One census stated August 1867, but don't know how accurate it >> might be? In my grandmother's family (who is the daughter of Maria Theresa >> Maciel) all of the daughters were baptised Mary, but only the eldest was >> called Mary, all of the rest were called by their middle name. >> >> We were always told that she was from Pico & judging by some of the trees >> from the DNA matches that we share in common, Lajes do Pico is probable. >> Other family names that show up frequently in the matching trees are >> Pereira & Silveira. Maciel goes in & out. >> >> Thank you in advance! >> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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