Susan,

What have you figured out ? What are you still trying to decipher ?

Gayle



> On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:34 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much Gayle for the suggestion for checking the CITEM. I do 
> believe that I have found the correct Maria Teresa Maciel. The CITEM lists 
> the parents (Antonio Pereira Rosa & Maria Teresa) that are found in the 
> baptismal record. I think that I have most of it figured out, but there are 
> still some words that I haven't yet. 
> 
> # 47 on bottom right:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P197.html
> 
> continued on next page:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P198.html
> 
> & the tree from CITEM:
> 
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Matca&lang=pt&m=A&i=16225&v=5&siblings=on&notes=on&bd=0&color=&t=H&after=&before=
> 
> Thank you
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 11:03:45 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>> Susan,
>> 
>> I see : Maria, daughter of Joao Sousa Maciel and Marianna da Gloria. She was 
>> born 10 Dec 1865. Paternal grandparents were Manuel Homem Silveira and 
>> Marianna Josefa. Maternal grandparents were Antonio (?) and Inacia Balbina. 
>> Note: I used modern spellings above in Sousa and Inacia. Also, Antonio's 
>> surname seems to disappear where the page bends inward. 
>> 
>> I checked CITCEM but it gives the birthdate in August, which baffles me. I 
>> am on my iPhone so I often am cautious on being too definitive when viewing 
>> on a small screen, but, I really see December on the first line. I'll go 
>> back and see if the birth was four months earlier with the baptism much 
>> later. Not unheard of, but more often than not just a few days apart. 
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maria Theresa Maciel is my father's maternal grandmother. I match many 
>>> people via GEDmatch on her line, but since I do not he the names of either 
>>> of her parents, it's hard for me to untangle who she might be connected to. 
>>> 
>>> Can someone please help me translate # 53 on the bottom left?
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1865-1874/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1865-1874_item1/P38.html
>>> 
>>> I can recognise the name Maciel on the 7th line down. I'm not sure if this 
>>> is our Maria Theresa Maciel because I can't decipher the date? I can make 
>>> out December & Octo for 1800's but the end of the line is blurry. It is 
>>> page 38 of 164 with the date range of 1864 to 1874, so it's in the 
>>> ballpark. Her birth year is estimated to be from 1865 to 1868 from census & 
>>> death record. One census stated August 1867, but don't know how accurate it 
>>> might be?  In my grandmother's family (who is the daughter of Maria Theresa 
>>> Maciel) all of the daughters were baptised Mary, but only the eldest was 
>>> called Mary, all of the rest were called by their middle name. 
>>> 
>>> We were always told that she was from Pico & judging by some of the trees 
>>> from the DNA matches that we share in common, Lajes do Pico is probable. 
>>> Other family names that show up frequently in the matching trees are 
>>> Pereira & Silveira. Maciel goes in & out. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance!
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