Susan, What have you figured out ? What are you still trying to decipher ?
Gayle > On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:34 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you so much Gayle for the suggestion for checking the CITEM. I do > believe that I have found the correct Maria Teresa Maciel. The CITEM lists > the parents (Antonio Pereira Rosa & Maria Teresa) that are found in the > baptismal record. I think that I have most of it figured out, but there are > still some words that I haven't yet. > > # 47 on bottom right: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P197.html > > continued on next page: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P198.html > > & the tree from CITEM: > > http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Matca&lang=pt&m=A&i=16225&v=5&siblings=on¬es=on&bd=0&color=&t=H&after=&before= > > Thank you > >> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 11:03:45 AM UTC-7, [email protected] wrote: >> Susan, >> >> I see : Maria, daughter of Joao Sousa Maciel and Marianna da Gloria. She was >> born 10 Dec 1865. Paternal grandparents were Manuel Homem Silveira and >> Marianna Josefa. Maternal grandparents were Antonio (?) and Inacia Balbina. >> Note: I used modern spellings above in Sousa and Inacia. Also, Antonio's >> surname seems to disappear where the page bends inward. >> >> I checked CITCEM but it gives the birthdate in August, which baffles me. I >> am on my iPhone so I often am cautious on being too definitive when viewing >> on a small screen, but, I really see December on the first line. I'll go >> back and see if the birth was four months earlier with the baptism much >> later. Not unheard of, but more often than not just a few days apart. >> >> Gayle >> >> >> >>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Maria Theresa Maciel is my father's maternal grandmother. I match many >>> people via GEDmatch on her line, but since I do not he the names of either >>> of her parents, it's hard for me to untangle who she might be connected to. >>> >>> Can someone please help me translate # 53 on the bottom left? >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1865-1874/PIC-LJ-PIEDADE-B-1865-1874_item1/P38.html >>> >>> I can recognise the name Maciel on the 7th line down. I'm not sure if this >>> is our Maria Theresa Maciel because I can't decipher the date? I can make >>> out December & Octo for 1800's but the end of the line is blurry. It is >>> page 38 of 164 with the date range of 1864 to 1874, so it's in the >>> ballpark. Her birth year is estimated to be from 1865 to 1868 from census & >>> death record. One census stated August 1867, but don't know how accurate it >>> might be? In my grandmother's family (who is the daughter of Maria Theresa >>> Maciel) all of the daughters were baptised Mary, but only the eldest was >>> called Mary, all of the rest were called by their middle name. >>> >>> We were always told that she was from Pico & judging by some of the trees >>> from the DNA matches that we share in common, Lajes do Pico is probable. >>> Other family names that show up frequently in the matching trees are >>> Pereira & Silveira. Maciel goes in & out. >>> >>> Thank you in advance! >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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