I knew you had it ! 😀 Thanks, Kathy.
Gayle > On Sep 7, 2016, at 7:11 PM, Kathy Cardoza <[email protected]> wrote: > > Susan > > The link that Gayle was referring to for Naming Practices is: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-m---z/naming-practices.html > > Kathy > >> On Sep 07, 2016, at 01:08 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> Susan >> >> Ask Cheri is she (or Rosemarie or Kathy) can send you a link to an article >> on Naming Traditions among the Portuguese. It may help explain a lot about >> how different their surname patterns/choices are to ours. And, why you can't >> assume the names used in the islands are the same as the ones used here in >> the states. Also, how a single person could use many variations and alcunhas >> over their lifetime. >> >> Gayle >> >> >> >>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Gayle, >>> >>> Thank you, that's good to know of course, but very disappointing. What a >>> roller coaster! Maria Teresa Maciel is the only name that we have known her >>> by, which is frustrating. I was excited when I found any reference to >>> Maciel in the baptismal records & was hoping that since that was the name >>> that she chose that it was a significant or close family connection. Also, >>> when I looked in the family tree on CITEM that is connected to this Maria, >>> there were a few other Maria Teresa's & Teresa's. The mother's name is >>> listed as Maria Teresa. >>> >>> I wonder if our Maria Teresa really had a different name at birth, but then >>> took on this name later because this Maria had died? There are several >>> different dates suggested for her birth in the census records, from 1865 to >>> 1868. I have seen an even wider range of dates for other people. Makes you >>> wonder if some didn't even know what their actual date of birth was & just >>> picked one that seemed likely, but forgot which one that they had picked >>> before! Sigh. Back to the haystack. >>> >>> I'm going to try to get hard copies of her marriage & death certificates to >>> see if there is any more info there. >>> >>> Thanks for your time & willingness to help. >>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Susan, >>>> >>>> The birthdate is 15 July 1865. She was baptized on the 17th of July. But, >>>> according to CITCEM, this Maria died 1 July 1885 at age 19. >>>> >>>> Gayle >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:59 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Gayle for the suggestion to check the CITCEM. I found the same >>>>> reference to her being born in August 1865 & actually found her on 17 >>>>> July 1865 in Sao Mateus on the CCA. I had seen people post screenshots >>>>> from GenWeb, but never knew how they generated them, so thanks. & thanks >>>>> also to Richard for helping translate too. The new one that I found is >>>>> prettier & should be easier. I also found a cousin who understands >>>>> Portuguese, but I know that the members of this forum have had more >>>>> practice and are so much better at deciphering the subtleties. >>>>> >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P195.html >>>>> # 40 on the right >>>>> >>>>> I think that it's 17 July 1865? which is closest to the info found on >>>>> GenWeb: >>>>> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Matca&lang=en&m=D&p=maria+teresa&n=jesus&oc=7&v=5&t=L&bd=0&color= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Susan, >>>>>> Sorry, to tell you, but 60ish cMs is NOT a strong DNA match. The most >>>>>> two people can share in common is in the 3000 range. 60ish pales in >>>>>> comparison. You'll need a really good paper trail to make 60ish cMs pan >>>>>> out. Those matches need more work. Start with 100+ cMs or more to have >>>>>> success in working with DNA. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> One is 60.4 with largest 22.6 & the other significant one is 59.9 & >>>>>>> 19.6 largest. >>>>>>> & also match on 3 other kits that the same person administrates for his >>>>>>> family, so I don't think that it's just a fluke. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is only one other match that is higher that was not a known >>>>>>> relative. The one next higher is a 4th cousin @ 61.7 & 27. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Define "Strong" matches. 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