Susan Ask Cheri is she (or Rosemarie or Kathy) can send you a link to an article on Naming Traditions among the Portuguese. It may help explain a lot about how different their surname patterns/choices are to ours. And, why you can't assume the names used in the islands are the same as the ones used here in the states. Also, how a single person could use many variations and alcunhas over their lifetime.
Gayle > On Sep 7, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Gayle, > > Thank you, that's good to know of course, but very disappointing. What a > roller coaster! Maria Teresa Maciel is the only name that we have known her > by, which is frustrating. I was excited when I found any reference to Maciel > in the baptismal records & was hoping that since that was the name that she > chose that it was a significant or close family connection. Also, when I > looked in the family tree on CITEM that is connected to this Maria, there > were a few other Maria Teresa's & Teresa's. The mother's name is listed as > Maria Teresa. > > I wonder if our Maria Teresa really had a different name at birth, but then > took on this name later because this Maria had died? There are several > different dates suggested for her birth in the census records, from 1865 to > 1868. I have seen an even wider range of dates for other people. Makes you > wonder if some didn't even know what their actual date of birth was & just > picked one that seemed likely, but forgot which one that they had picked > before! Sigh. Back to the haystack. > > I'm going to try to get hard copies of her marriage & death certificates to > see if there is any more info there. > > Thanks for your time & willingness to help. > >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:57 AM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Susan, >> >> The birthdate is 15 July 1865. She was baptized on the 17th of July. But, >> according to CITCEM, this Maria died 1 July 1885 at age 19. >> >> Gayle >> >> >> >>> On Sep 7, 2016, at 3:59 AM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Gayle for the suggestion to check the CITCEM. I found the same >>> reference to her being born in August 1865 & actually found her on 17 July >>> 1865 in Sao Mateus on the CCA. I had seen people post screenshots from >>> GenWeb, but never knew how they generated them, so thanks. & thanks also to >>> Richard for helping translate too. The new one that I found is prettier & >>> should be easier. I also found a cousin who understands Portuguese, but I >>> know that the members of this forum have had more practice and are so much >>> better at deciphering the subtleties. >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1856-1867_item1/P195.html >>> # 40 on the right >>> >>> I think that it's 17 July 1865? which is closest to the info found on >>> GenWeb: >>> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Matca&lang=en&m=D&p=maria+teresa&n=jesus&oc=7&v=5&t=L&bd=0&color= >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Susan, >>>> Sorry, to tell you, but 60ish cMs is NOT a strong DNA match. The most two >>>> people can share in common is in the 3000 range. 60ish pales in >>>> comparison. You'll need a really good paper trail to make 60ish cMs pan >>>> out. Those matches need more work. Start with 100+ cMs or more to have >>>> success in working with DNA. >>>> >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das >>>> Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Susan Schoen <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> One is 60.4 with largest 22.6 & the other significant one is 59.9 & 19.6 >>>>> largest. >>>>> & also match on 3 other kits that the same person administrates for his >>>>> family, so I don't think that it's just a fluke. >>>>> >>>>> There is only one other match that is higher that was not a known >>>>> relative. The one next higher is a 4th cousin @ 61.7 & 27. >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Define "Strong" matches. 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