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So I think the jist of it here is that the father is Manuel Goulart Martins Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: > > You still need to find the baptism. > > A legitimization legitimizes the kid. The father comes forward and says he's > the dad (or in the case of pais incognitos, both parents come forward). I'll > try, but I'm not fluent and I've never trained myself to read these. > > It starts out 31 Dec 1884 at Sao Joao Batista church in Lajes do Pico, says > Manuel Goulart Martins, married, mariner, living in this freguesia, in a > public declaration/proclamation, that he acknowledges/recognizes Manuel, son > of Perpetua da Conceicao, single, of this freguesia, and that the following > proclamation was made: Manuel Goulart Martins, single, mariner, living in the > freguesia of Sao Joao, on the 16 September 1884 ....I lose part of it here > then In the year birth of our Lord Jesus Christ of 1884 (I think they wrote > that year enough times already!) on the 16 day of the month of September of > the current year in this village of Lajes do Pico, and the house of Antonio > Homem da Costa ....I lose part of it here. I think I see the word "found" > "witnesses" "end of this assigned???" Manuel Goulart Martins, single, of > major age, maritime, living in the freguesia of Sao Joao (geez, how much > vinho did this guy have???) son of Manuel Goulart Martins and of his wife > Maria Francesca, both deceased, natives of the freguesia of Sao Joao, of whom > I knew properly?? of the faith?? (that word is faith)...something about > witnesses. They were present, the same witnesses, something something Manuel > Goulart Martins something something something the son Manuel, single, son > natural of Perpetua da Conceicao and of pai incognito...godfather Jose > Ignacio Martins, married, treasurer, living in the something freguesia, and > godmother the invocation of Our Lady. Then something about the parish record > declared Manuel was the son of pai incognito (uhhh, they opened another > bottle of wine)....I lose it again. I see "declare that he and his son" ...I > think he says again Manuel is his son. Then something about Manuel, his son, > uses two surnames ...something then they have all the rights that they read > of the king (huh what?) something sons/children...Something authority of the > faith (???) .....ratified....assigned.......witnesses Antonio Homem Costa and > Manuel Leal de Brum, single, something something, living in this referenced > Vila, of whom I know, Thome Cardoza de Simas Machado e Mello something public > of notes (a notary?) It goes on again with the names, they attest to the > truth, they paid the stamps of 1000 reis (unit of money) and another of ___ > reis (had to do with 15/50?), something 16 September 1884 and 4 and Mello > (OK, now I need a bottle of wine). Something .. more or less of the said > something..actual book of notes, number 25 ... conferred it was true without > cause...two half pages of paper ...something something Simas. In this village > of Lajes do Pico on the 16 day of September 1884 (they must have had a good > crop of grapes). I Thome Cardozo de Simas Machado e Mello ....he blabs some > more and says his name again. I think you get the gist. Manuel Goulart > Martins signs at the end. > > Now I think I need some wine! LOL, just kidding. The native speakers are > laughing hysterically! > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Elizabeth Migliori <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> I believe it is my great grandmother's son. I have been trying to find his >> birth/baptism record. I'm not sure I understand a legitimization. >> Who would be making him Legitimate? Is someone adopting him? If he was Pai >> incognito then how does he get Legitimate? >> The mother's and neta materna names match. >> I can send it to Joao if it's to much I understand. I thought I would try >> here first. >> >> Thx >> Liz >> >>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote: >>> You know this is a legitimization right? Is that what you are after? A >>> Manuel born to pai incognito? I don't want to translate it if you didn't >>> mean to be in the legitimizations. What info can you read and what info do >>> you need from it? >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Elizabeth Migliori <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-L-1884-1884/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-L-1884-1884_item1/P5.html >>>> >>>> Would someone please translate this doc for me... Manuel left side half >>>> way down but then goes to next page. >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance >>>> >>>> Liz >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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