Cheri, If the confessional roles aren't posted, do we assume they don't exist or they were just not scanned and added to the site?
Louie On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 10:31:53 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Liz M > Go to Tombo.pt/en and find your freguesia. If the CCA has them, they > scanned them. > Here's what's available for Ribeira Seca on Sao Jorge: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > I don't know how many candy canes, sugar plums, or fruit cakes Jeremy has > been eating! > > We need to call the confession rolls just that. And if people don't know > what they are, we define it. That's what this list is for - to educate > people. Please don't mislead lead them or make them think they can get > access to things that are inaccessible. > > Just got to Tombo and and find your freguesia. If the confessional rolls > were scanned by the CCA they will be listed under Rois/Confessal (spelling). > Cheri > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Elizabeth Migliori <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Hi >> So are there confession rolls for Faial and Pico and All of Sao Miguel? >> like Cabouco, Lagoa? >> >> Liz >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Guys, please call these things by the proper name. They are NOT >>> censuses. Censuses are for enumeration of a population, usually done by a >>> goverment entity. Censuses don't exist for the Azores. These are confession >>> rolls (rólos de confissão or róis/confessado). The priest went from >>> house to house making sure everyone everyone had done confession and >>> received communion (I think). He listed their names, beginning with the >>> head of the household (usually the man), then the wife, then the kids. He >>> lists their ages. Because it happens to list households, it can function >>> like a census for our use, but it is NOT a census. It's a confession roll, >>> used by the Catholic church, not a census mandated by the government. >>> >>> I don't want new researchers thinking there's censuses out there for the >>> Azores. There's not. >>> >>> And because confession rolls are NOT consider vital records (birth, >>> marriage, death) not many were collected. Graciosa had the most. I think a >>> couple of freguesias on Terceira. And I guess this freguesia on Sao Jorge. >>> So most freguesia do NOT have them online. >>> >>> To see what the CCA holds, you can go to Tombo.pt/en, type in your >>> freguesia, and click on it. It will tell you what is held by the CCA. >>> [image: Inline image 1] >>> Santa Cruz on Graciosa has baptisms, marriages, deaths, acknowledgements >>> (claiming parentage of the baby) and confession rolls. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:26 AM, LouieLouieOhOh <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jeremy, >>>> Thank you so much! I could send you lots of relatives from Ribeira Seca >>>> but ... can you check these? I would like to know if their siblings are >>>> listed in the Census of 1875 and 1900. As seen below they were married in >>>> 1870. >>>> >>>> Estevao José Mattos >>>> B-10/10/1832 >>>> D-3/3/1902 >>>> M- May 9 1870 >>>> St. Jorge, Ribeira Seca >>>> >>>> >>>> Maria Inês Azevedo Coração Jesus >>>> B-3/13/1850 >>>> Louie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 8:43:51 AM UTC-8, Jeremy G. B-C - >>>> Researching: Sao Jorge & Pico wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Louie, >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Attached to this post you will find the 1875 and 1900 census sheets >>>>> for your great grandfather in case you did not have them. Note: Jose de >>>>> Sousa Borba is not listed in 1875 or 1900 in Ribeira Seca. If you didn't >>>>> have the attached, I can look up more names for you............ >>>>> >>>>> Jeremy >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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