Mine are probably just the same name but different persons from the other end of the island
Marilyn On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM, nancy jean baptiste < [email protected]> wrote: > Mine was married to Teresa Maria de Jesus...I descend from Joao de Sousa > Machado and Teresa's son, Joao Inacio de Sousa, b. 9-7-1736 in Norte > Grande....married first time, 7-12-1762 to > > Maria Bernarda Poderosa, and 2nd time to his son-in-laws sister, Joanna > Maciel Alvares. > > > Nancy Jean > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of > Marilyn Thompson <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:45:14 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society > and culture > > I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my data > base. What is the time period you are talking about? > Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of the > island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name. > Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria > Antonia de Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet) > son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to > Maria Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801 > and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo > The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado *(My > direct line)* B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23 > Jan 1828 Ribeira Seca > > Marilyn > > > On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to >> Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f&hl=en >> >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Oh dear.... >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of >>> Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM >>> *To:* Azores Genealogy >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas >>> society and culture >>> Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It >>> says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability >>> to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be >>> converted to Word. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.....any suggestions? >>> >>> >>> Nancy >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of >>> Victor Soares <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas >>> society and culture >>> >>> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to. >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 >>> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de >>> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de >>> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I >>> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only >>> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line. >>> >>> Rosemarie >>> [email protected] >>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but >>> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal >>> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check! >>> >>> >>> Nancy Jean! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of >>> Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas >>> society and culture >>> >>> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead >>> me somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it >>> and eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her >>> husband, Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will >>> enjoy reading about my ancestor in other than church records. >>> >>> Rosemarie >>> [email protected] >>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, >>> *Society >>> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries* >>> <https://sigarra.up.pt/flup/pt/pub_geral.show_file?pi_gdoc_id=726788>, >>> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de >>> Sousa Machado >>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-O-1780-1797_item1/P252.html> >>> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our >>> common ancestors) >>> >>> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, >>> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this >>> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a >>> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts: >>> >>> - *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and >>> her son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in >>> cash 140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 >>> pounds >>> and 8 barrels(?) of butter.* >>> >>> >>> There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead >>> you to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the >>> dissertation. 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