Hi, Cheri. here's the information I have around my avô's travel to the US. My understanding is that he came here three times: around 1914, again in 1925 to visit, and then in 1927 to stay. This is the information I have for the 1925 passage.
Manuel Rezendes born Jan. 20, 1901 (son of Manuel Rezendes born around 1869 & Alexandrina da Gloria) Document: List of United States Citizens Ship’s name: Canada Sailing from: Ponta Delgada Sailing date: Feb 22, 1925 Arrival at: Port of Providence Date of arrival: March 2, 1925 (it’s a bit hard to read – looks like it says March 2 and a - (dash) after it, 1925). Address in US: 4 Waldo Ave, Somerville, Mass. Under the column for naturalization (it reads, “If naturalized, list location of court which issued naturalization papers, and date of papers”) it lists "P. Delgada, St. Michael, Azores, Jan. 20, 1901.” Above that, there's handwriting that reads, "through father's papers.' He came back again (for good, with his bride) in 1927 (I think that might have been Port of Boston, but not certain). The ship may have been the Canopic (White Star line). I don't have immediately handy records for the 1914 or 1927 journeys. ~ for census records, they are consistent with what we know. He first shows up in the 1930 census at his home in Somerville, MA with his wife and baby girl. He's in the 1940 census and the records are basically accurate, adding a boy and his mother-in-law. Spellings are a bit all over the place, but my guess is that maybe the interviews were done orally and the census takers just took down whatever they thought it was. Of course, the mystery I most want to solve is how did HIS father (another Manuel Rezendes -- earlier 'de Rezendes') become a US Citizen. To the question about his line of work: he was a carpenter/cabinet maker, and I think he spent some time as a merchant seaman -- perhaps he did some work for or in the US in that capacity...? Also, the family owned seven pineapple greenhouses - which I'd hoped to see when I visited, but they are long gone by now, of course. thanks for any & all help! muito obrigado! di On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 10:14:37 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Di, > > Can you tell me where to find your immigrant ancestor's American arrival > record? Under what name, date, and port? I can look it up on Ancestry. It > might help Marian. Also, did you find your immigrant ancestor LEAVING the > Azores in the Azorean Passaportes? What did the U.S. Censuses say about > citizenship for your ancestor through the years? > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Or it's the papers of the wrong Manuel Resendes. >> >> The naturalization laws changed a lot over the years. I don't know what >> they laws were off the top of my head for the mid-1800s. I do know that the >> rule Rosemarie stated was still in effect in the 1940s. I helped a friend >> with his genealogy and his dad, born in Poland in the 1920s, obtained his >> citizenship via his dad's citizenship, who was filed earlier. >> >> Try these: >> "*Locating Your Immigrant Ancestor*" by James C. Neagles and Lile Lee >> Neagles. >> >> "*American Naturalization Processes and Procedures 1790- 1985*" by John >> J. Newman. >> >> "*A Guide to Naturalization Records of the United States*" by Christina >> K. Schaefer. (All of these are probably available in your public library). >> >> I'm going to contact Marian on your behalf as well. >> >> Cheri >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Margaret Vicente <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Yes, and from what you wrote his children moved to the USA on his >>> father's "Naturalisation" papers. Papers of someone that "never" went to >>> the USA, someone that was "naturalised", right? >>> >>> These rights could only be acquired through *a*) a *born* American >>> Citizen (which he's not) or* b*) a son/daughter of an American citizen, >>> naturalised through the parents. That's why I'm suggesting you're looking >>> in the wrong direction and should instead be looking at his parents and >>> grandparents history. >>> >>> One other factor that may be relevant, is what was his profession in >>> Ponta Delgada? Also presuming this to be in the island of Sao Miguel. >>> >>> Someone in this list may be able to assist if you provide the specifics >>> i.e. place and date of his birth and his parents names. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> There's something not right about this. I'll see if I can put you in >>>> contact with Marian Smith of the USCIS. She's the one who has worked for >>>> them for years (going back to the INS days) and she does genealogy >>>> lectures >>>> too. >>>> >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Di <[email protected] <javascript:> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> thanks for your replies! so speedy, too! >>>>> >>>>> here's the thing that has me confused: my great-grandfather never >>>>> lived in the United States. He was born in Ponta Delgada, died there, >>>>> and >>>>> spent his whole life there, yet somewhere along the way was granted US >>>>> citizenship. that's the piece that seems mysterious. His sons (my >>>>> grandfather & great-uncles) came to the US and lived in & around East >>>>> Cambridge, MA. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 8:03:20 AM UTC-7, Di wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone! >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm new to the group and this is my first post. In reading your posts >>>>>> & replies, I'm so impressed with the depth of knowledge here and the >>>>>> commitment & dedication to the research! And special appreciation to >>>>>> Cheri >>>>>> Mello for managing the listserv - what a labor of love. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what I'm trying to figure out: >>>>>> >>>>>> My great-grandfather, *Manuel Rezendes (Resendes)* was born in Ponta >>>>>> Delgada around 1869. He died in Ponta Delgada in 1927. I have a >>>>>> document >>>>>> from the American Consulate, "Report on the Death of An American >>>>>> Citizen" >>>>>> about him. So we know at some point, he was granted citizenship, even >>>>>> though he never took advantage of it. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's 'derivative papers,' meaning that the grant of citizenship was >>>>>> for him and his children. So his five children were born with >>>>>> Portuguese >>>>>> AND US citizenship - which is how my avô and his brothers emigrated >>>>>> without >>>>>> having to be naturalized. >>>>>> >>>>>> On the passenger manifest for the ship my avô came over on, he is >>>>>> listed as a US citizen (under 'Court of Naturalization,' it lists his >>>>>> home >>>>>> address and the notation *'through father's papers'*). >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm trying to track down the circumstances of how my >>>>>> great-grandfather was granted the US citizenship. I've called the >>>>>> Consulate (they told me they don't keep the paperwork after 20 years). >>>>>> Recently while on a visit to Washington, I went to the National >>>>>> Archives, >>>>>> where the archivists told me they'd never heard anything like it -- and >>>>>> in >>>>>> fact, doubted my story until I showed them the paperwork. The other >>>>>> route >>>>>> I'm going to try, at their suggestion, is the US State Dep't., but that >>>>>> could take years, ha. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Has anyone here had a similar circumstance, or have you heard of >>>>>> anything like this?* Or ideas of other ways to try to track it down? >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a complete novice at all this, so any and all >>>>>> tips/direction/advice are warmly welcomed! >>>>>> >>>>>> all the best, >>>>>> di >>>>>> Diane Rezendes >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Margaret M Vicente >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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