Melissa,

Not necessarily a Priest's error but how the information was relayed to
him.

You should paper trail it and document the error once verified by searching
the records within a parameter of 5 + years for all the born Tomasia's and
as suggested by Cheri, collect all the siblings.

Hope this helps,



On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Melissa <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mara,
>
> Thanks so much for this! I was getting stuck here with the names. I guess
> the priest just messed up then? Egads, that makes it difficult.
>
> Melissa
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:39:33 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Hi Melissa and Cheri,
>>
>> That's because the record is incorrect.  The name is Luis not Francisco
>> and the paternal grandmother is also incorrect, her name is Anasticia
>> Joaquina.  Notice how the record shows both grandmothers with the same
>> name.  Here's Luis's birth record with the correct set of parents and
>> grandparents of Tomasia.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P102.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Men generally do not change their names around. The priest was required
>>> to read the record back, so the vast majority of errors were caught. I'll
>>> look over this when I get home, although Mara may beat me to it.
>>>
>>> I do know that in instances where I have found discrepancies, I had to
>>> collect all siblings, all kids, sometimes all grandkids to figure it out.
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2018 2:51 PM, "Melissa" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mara and Cheri,
>>>
>>> Thanks for this help. Here's my confusion and maybe I just have to live
>>> with it: In their marriage record Antonio's father is listed as Joao, which
>>> matches, and his mother is listed as Jacinta Candida. In the baptism you
>>> linked to, his mother is Francisca. In their marriage record Thomasia's
>>> parents are listed as Luiz Cabral and Antonia Candida. In the baptism
>>> record you linked to her father is Francisco.
>>>
>>> Are name changes like this common? And if so, how do you manage to track
>>> people over time? I assumed women would be much harder given name changes
>>> but not so with men.
>>>
>>> Melissa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:15:47 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Melissa,
>>>>
>>>> This couple are also my relatives:
>>>>
>>>> Antonio's baptism, bottom left:
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>>> SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864_item1/P230.html
>>>>
>>>> Tomasia, right side.
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>>> SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869_item1/P48.html
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any questions,
>>>>
>>>> Margaret
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Melissa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They were married they 26th of April, 1886 (see #21):
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
>>>>> SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P196.html
>>>>>
>>>>> He was 22 and she was 21, which should mean they were born ca. 1864
>>>>> and 1865, respectively.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for their birth records and coming up empty handed. I
>>>>> found this Thomazia but the father's first name doesn't match:
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
>>>>> SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869_item1/P48.html
>>>>> (#141). I haven't been able to find anything for Antonio. Any advice
>>>>> appreciated.
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