I'm working on it, very, very slowly. Much appreciated.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 7:40:12 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>
> Melissa, 
>
> Not necessarily a Priest's error but how the information was relayed to 
> him. 
>
> You should paper trail it and document the error once verified by 
> searching the records within a parameter of 5 + years for all the born 
> Tomasia's and as suggested by Cheri, collect all the siblings.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Melissa <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Mara,
>>
>> Thanks so much for this! I was getting stuck here with the names. I guess 
>> the priest just messed up then? Egads, that makes it difficult. 
>>
>> Melissa 
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:39:33 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Melissa and Cheri,
>>>
>>> That's because the record is incorrect.  The name is Luis not Francisco 
>>> and the paternal grandmother is also incorrect, her name is Anasticia 
>>> Joaquina.  Notice how the record shows both grandmothers with the same 
>>> name.  Here's Luis's birth record with the correct set of parents and 
>>> grandparents of Tomasia.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P102.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Men generally do not change their names around. The priest was required 
>>>> to read the record back, so the vast majority of errors were caught. I'll 
>>>> look over this when I get home, although Mara may beat me to it.
>>>>
>>>> I do know that in instances where I have found discrepancies, I had to 
>>>> collect all siblings, all kids, sometimes all grandkids to figure it out.
>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2018 2:51 PM, "Melissa" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mara and Cheri, 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this help. Here's my confusion and maybe I just have to live 
>>>> with it: In their marriage record Antonio's father is listed as Joao, 
>>>> which 
>>>> matches, and his mother is listed as Jacinta Candida. In the baptism you 
>>>> linked to, his mother is Francisca. In their marriage record Thomasia's 
>>>> parents are listed as Luiz Cabral and Antonia Candida. In the baptism 
>>>> record you linked to her father is Francisco.
>>>>
>>>> Are name changes like this common? And if so, how do you manage to 
>>>> track people over time? I assumed women would be much harder given name 
>>>> changes but not so with men.
>>>>
>>>> Melissa 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:15:47 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Melissa,
>>>>>
>>>>> This couple are also my relatives:
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio's baptism, bottom left:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864_item1/P230.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomasia, right side. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869_item1/P48.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if you have any questions,
>>>>>
>>>>> Margaret
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Melissa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They were married they 26th of April, 1886 (see #21): 
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P196.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was 22 and she was 21, which should mean they were born ca. 1864 
>>>>>> and 1865, respectively. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm looking for their birth records and coming up empty handed. I 
>>>>>> found this Thomazia but the father's first name doesn't match: 
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869_item1/P48.html
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> (#141). I haven't been able to find anything for Antonio. Any advice 
>>>>>> appreciated.
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