John M,

I cannot duplicate any of the searches that you have listed.

Are you a descendant of the child, Mary Agnes Silva, born 1868, or a
descendant of Joseph Silva, born 1869?

Did you DNA test yet? The Azores project is now large enough to give you at
least an island group if not the island. I'd need to know what you have on
your whole tree though.
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:41 PM, John Machado <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before
> coming to US.  I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest.  I was
> simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26,
> 1830 as a last ditch effort.  Angustius is simply where I started.
>
> What I know.
>
>    - Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though
>    the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year.
>    - Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868
>    in Buffalo, NY.  Joseph Silva listed as father.
>    - Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2, 1869
>    in Oakland, CA.  Joseph Silva listed as father.
>    - Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address
>    as Joseph Nichols.  Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family
>    photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva.
>    - Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce.  Joseph Silva Dyce
>    shown on death cert and internment records.
>    - Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893.  I have death cert. Lists Mary
>    Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father.
>    - Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA
>    Nov 4, 1901.  I have death cert.
>
> Media
>
>    - 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph.  Age
>    of Mary shown as 40.  (Address matches City Directory Records)
>    - Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph
>    Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva.  Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901.
>    - Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for Joseph
>    Nichols and Mary Nichols.  Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland 1878
>    (City Directory)
>    - 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols.  Age of Mary show
>    as 40.  (Address matches City Directory Records)
>    - Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and 9
>    days.  Same as death cert.
>    - The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother.  In
>    handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo.  Attached in the
>    thread below.
>
> Could not find
>
>    - Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists)
>    - Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva.  Have no
>    idea what island they are from.
>    - What happened to Joseph Silva.
>    - Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues
>    - Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a records
>    search at the Oakland Diocese)
>    - Other newspaper tidbits except below:
>
> Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in the
> few records I could find.
>
> Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice section
> that read;
>
> *Dec 19, 1901 --Joseph Silva or Dyce, son of Mary Foote (Silva) **deed to
> Mary A Pereira or Perry and C F Pereira, All int N park... *She may have
> changed her name or remarried for a third time to a Mr. Foote. I found a
> Mr. Foote living near by at the time of death.
>
> John Machado
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 1:31:29 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> John M,
>>
>> Any post over 30 days old is closed. I suggest you just explain again who
>> you are looking for and what you have done so far (U.S. Census,
>> naturalization, obituaries, etc). In the past 5 years we have several
>> hundred new members so it would be good to post again. Someone in the past
>> 5 years may have your answer!
>>
>> I have no clue as to why you are picking Angustius in Horta on Faial
>> island. Maybe it's her and maybe it's not. The Azores are 9 islands with
>> approximately 165 church parishes to look at. I'm sure I could find another
>> Maria born approximately on the date you provide in at least half the
>> parishes in the Azores. That would put you on a wild goose chase.
>>
>> Not knowing what other research you have done, no one can evaluate your
>> evidence and give you their thoughts on if it's the correct Maria or not.
>> So please explain what research you have done, why you are picking
>> Angustias, if you know your Mary/Maria's siblings or parents, etc.
>> Thanks, Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:31 PM, John Machado <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I came to the group back in 2013 trying to resolve a mystery.  The
>>> subject of the mystery was Maria Isabel Rodrigues.  I posted for help back
>>> then: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/TAUQcfAZdrg/discussion
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiGuYP7kf_ZAhWEyIMKHex7AJoQFggpMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Ftopic%2Fazores%2FTAUQcfAZdrg&usg=AOvVaw3Fd4ZlYppEikNhfL8wbuYR>
>>> I couldn't find my original post.
>>>
>>> For the past almost five years I've been searching.  I can't mentally
>>> move forward with the rest of my tree until I resolve this mystery.
>>> Tonight, I found a baptismal record that might be the link.  I ask for the
>>> groups help in translating it.   Record weblink: 0008
>>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-ANGUSTIAS-B-1830-1835/FAL-HT-ANGUSTIAS-B-1830-1835_item1/P8.html>.
>>> Hopefully, this is the one.
>>>
>>> I have a photo of the ancestor.  Written on the back was the name  Mary
>>> Isabel Rodrigues Silva Nichols.  On her death certificate it states she was
>>> 70 years and 9 days old when she died Nov 4, 1901.  The puts her birth
>>> October 26, 1831.  I believe the record I've found is from 1830 but the
>>> Month and day are correct.  I'd like to hear what others think if this is
>>> the correct baptismal record.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0wsL1ZsjpNc/WrM38mAfbrI/AAAAAAAAAA4/uDl-9XJq7EcRxoIRqM8Le66BXmlKrlEnwCLcBGAs/s1600/FAL-HT-ANGUSTIAS-B-1830-1835_0008.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c9c1p6kUMXc/WrM9023PKJI/AAAAAAAAABI/vShxjFnE6s0UkGvyjtxbg_OJMrlbcM-gQCLcBGAs/s1600/img005%2Bcopy.jpg>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NI8JaZ-6TP0/WrM-relIN9I/AAAAAAAAABY/otWBUcEvnx0SU0okGdT_eYkV0DdNQVovgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_2174%2Bcopy.jpg>
>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eAv2S2tS-MY/WrM-EeJjCFI/AAAAAAAAABM/lU2FR4UhXOYO05apBHxRIAoobBppQgl1wCLcBGAs/s1600/info%2Bfor%2Bimg002%2Bcopy.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> John Machado
>>> Castro Valley, CA
>>>
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