John,

If you type Dyce into the search of your gmail, you should be able to find
the thread.

Eric

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 12:08 PM, luiznoia . <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I worked on this back in 2013 with you. I'll go back and comment on that
>> thread so all discussion can be seen again.
>>
>> Meanwhile I found one more news item on Joseph Dyce. This is from 1914,
>> and he is being transported to Watsonville as an indigent.
>>
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:59 AM, "E" Sharp <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I was thinking the same thing...Dyce/Dias.  Also what about
>>> Nicols/Nicholas??
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Just some quick thoughts. The name Joseph Silva Dyce – I believe Dyce
>>>> is a phonetic spelling of Dias so in Portuguese records it would be Jose da
>>>> Silva Dias. Where did this Joseph Nichols come from? Did Jose da Silva Dias
>>>> die and Maria Isabel remarry? You kind of indicate this but you have no
>>>> death date for Jose da Silva Dias or a marriage record with Jose Nichols.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Have you done any DNA testing to see if you can get any matches with
>>>> an indication of which island and general location your ancestors may be
>>>> from?  *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Rick*
>>>>
>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>
>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *John Machado
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:42 PM
>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Isabel Rodrigues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before
>>>> coming to US.  I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest.  I was
>>>> simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26,
>>>> 1830 as a last ditch effort.  Angustius is simply where I started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I know.
>>>>
>>>>    - Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though
>>>>    the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year.
>>>>    - Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th
>>>>    1868 in Buffalo, NY.  Joseph Silva listed as father.
>>>>    - Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2,
>>>>    1869 in Oakland, CA.  Joseph Silva listed as father.
>>>>    - Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same
>>>>    address as Joseph Nichols.  Joseph Nichols is also written on the back 
>>>> of a
>>>>    family photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva.
>>>>    - Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce.  Joseph Silva Dyce
>>>>    shown on death cert and internment records.
>>>>    - Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893.  I have death cert. Lists Mary
>>>>    Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father.
>>>>    - Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland,
>>>>    CA Nov 4, 1901.  I have death cert.
>>>>
>>>> Media
>>>>
>>>>    - 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph.
>>>>    Age of Mary shown as 40.  (Address matches City Directory Records)
>>>>    - Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols,
>>>>    Joseph Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva.  Age of Mary shown as 70 at death 
>>>> in
>>>>    1901.
>>>>    - Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for
>>>>    Joseph Nichols and Mary Nichols.  Joseph Nichols first recorded in 
>>>> Oakland
>>>>    1878 (City Directory)
>>>>    - 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols.  Age of Mary
>>>>    show as 40.  (Address matches City Directory Records)
>>>>    - Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70
>>>>    and 9 days.  Same as death cert.
>>>>    - The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother.  In
>>>>    handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo.  Attached in the
>>>>    thread below.
>>>>
>>>> Could not find
>>>>
>>>>    - Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists)
>>>>    - Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva.  Have
>>>>    no idea what island they are from.
>>>>    - What happened to Joseph Silva.
>>>>    - Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues
>>>>    - Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a
>>>>    records search at the Oakland Diocese)
>>>>    - Other newspaper tidbits except below:
>>>>
>>>> Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in
>>>> the few records I could find.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice
>>>> section that read;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Dec 19, 1901 --Joseph Silva or Dyce, son of Mary Foote (Silva) deed to
>>>> Mary A Pereira or Perry and C F Pereira, All int N park... *She may
>>>> have changed her name or remarried for a third time to a Mr. Foote. I found
>>>> a Mr. Foote living near by at the time of death.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Machado
>>>>
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