John M,

I think I found you in the Azores DNA project. I'll review your matches
tonight when I get home. Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:

> John M,
>
> I cannot duplicate any of the searches that you have listed.
>
> Are you a descendant of the child, Mary Agnes Silva, born 1868, or a
> descendant of Joseph Silva, born 1869?
>
> Did you DNA test yet? The Azores project is now large enough to give you
> at least an island group if not the island. I'd need to know what you have
> on your whole tree though.
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:41 PM, John Machado <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have done a lot of research with nothing to show for her life before
>> coming to US.  I chose Angustius out of dumb luck to be honest.  I was
>> simply trying to look at baptism records around the birth date of Oct 26,
>> 1830 as a last ditch effort.  Angustius is simply where I started.
>>
>> What I know.
>>
>>    - Mary Esabel Rodrigues arrives in the US prior to 1868 even though
>>    the 1880 Oakland, CA census record indicates 1870 as arrival year.
>>    - Mary Esabel Rodrigues gave birth to Mary Agnes Silva, Jan 24th 1868
>>    in Buffalo, NY.  Joseph Silva listed as father.
>>    - Mary gave birth to a second child named Joseph Silva, August 2,
>>    1869 in Oakland, CA.  Joseph Silva listed as father.
>>    - Using Oakland Directory records Maria is living at the same address
>>    as Joseph Nichols.  Joseph Nichols is also written on the back of a family
>>    photo I have, listed as Step Father to Mary Agnes Silva.
>>    - Son, Joseph Silva changes name to Joseph Dyce.  Joseph Silva Dyce
>>    shown on death cert and internment records.
>>    - Joseph Nichols dies Sept 15, 1893.  I have death cert. Lists Mary
>>    Roderick as maiden name of mother and Joseph Dyce as father.
>>    - Maria Esabel Rodrigues now Maria Esabel Nichols dies in Oakland, CA
>>    Nov 4, 1901.  I have death cert.
>>
>> Media
>>
>>    - 1880 US Census Oakland, CA showing Joseph, Mary, Mary, Joseph.  Age
>>    of Mary shown as 40.  (Address matches City Directory Records)
>>    - Death Certificates for Maria Isabel Nichols, Joseph Nichols, Joseph
>>    Silva Dyce, Mary Agnes Silva.  Age of Mary shown as 70 at death in 1901.
>>    - Numerous Oakland City Directories and voter registrations for
>>    Joseph Nichols and Mary Nichols.  Joseph Nichols first recorded in Oakland
>>    1878 (City Directory)
>>    - 1900 US Census Oakland, CA showing Mary E Nichols.  Age of Mary
>>    show as 40.  (Address matches City Directory Records)
>>    - Newspaper obit is slight only saying native of azores, aged 70 and
>>    9 days.  Same as death cert.
>>    - The best evidence is a photo given to me by my grandmother.  In
>>    handwriting on the back, it tells who is in the photo.  Attached in the
>>    thread below.
>>
>> Could not find
>>
>>    - Mary Agnes Silva birth cert (if exists)
>>    - Ship manifests for Mary Isabel Rodrigues and Joseph Silva.  Have no
>>    idea what island they are from.
>>    - What happened to Joseph Silva.
>>    - Parent names of Mary Esabel Rodrigues
>>    - Church records in Oakland, yet. (I just recently requested a
>>    records search at the Oakland Diocese)
>>    - Other newspaper tidbits except below:
>>
>> Joseph Silva Dyce died in 1915 and was a dead end. Nothing useful in the
>> few records I could find.
>>
>> Another mystery find. I found a newspaper clipping in the notice section
>> that read;
>>
>> *Dec 19, 1901 --Joseph Silva or Dyce, son of Mary Foote (Silva) **deed
>> to Mary A Pereira or Perry and C F Pereira, All int N park... *She may
>> have changed her name or remarried for a third time to a Mr. Foote. I found
>> a Mr. Foote living near by at the time of death.
>>
>> John Machado
>>
>> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 1:31:29 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> John M,
>>>
>>> Any post over 30 days old is closed. I suggest you just explain again
>>> who you are looking for and what you have done so far (U.S. Census,
>>> naturalization, obituaries, etc). In the past 5 years we have several
>>> hundred new members so it would be good to post again. Someone in the past
>>> 5 years may have your answer!
>>>
>>> I have no clue as to why you are picking Angustius in Horta on Faial
>>> island. Maybe it's her and maybe it's not. The Azores are 9 islands with
>>> approximately 165 church parishes to look at. I'm sure I could find another
>>> Maria born approximately on the date you provide in at least half the
>>> parishes in the Azores. That would put you on a wild goose chase.
>>>
>>> Not knowing what other research you have done, no one can evaluate your
>>> evidence and give you their thoughts on if it's the correct Maria or not.
>>> So please explain what research you have done, why you are picking
>>> Angustias, if you know your Mary/Maria's siblings or parents, etc.
>>> Thanks, Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:31 PM, John Machado <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I came to the group back in 2013 trying to resolve a mystery.  The
>>>> subject of the mystery was Maria Isabel Rodrigues.  I posted for help back
>>>> then: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/TAUQcfAZdrg/discussion
>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiGuYP7kf_ZAhWEyIMKHex7AJoQFggpMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Ftopic%2Fazores%2FTAUQcfAZdrg&usg=AOvVaw3Fd4ZlYppEikNhfL8wbuYR>
>>>> I couldn't find my original post.
>>>>
>>>> For the past almost five years I've been searching.  I can't mentally
>>>> move forward with the rest of my tree until I resolve this mystery.
>>>> Tonight, I found a baptismal record that might be the link.  I ask for the
>>>> groups help in translating it.   Record weblink: 0008
>>>> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-ANGUSTIAS-B-1830-1835/FAL-HT-ANGUSTIAS-B-1830-1835_item1/P8.html>.
>>>> Hopefully, this is the one.
>>>>
>>>> I have a photo of the ancestor.  Written on the back was the name  Mary
>>>> Isabel Rodrigues Silva Nichols.  On her death certificate it states she was
>>>> 70 years and 9 days old when she died Nov 4, 1901.  The puts her birth
>>>> October 26, 1831.  I believe the record I've found is from 1830 but the
>>>> Month and day are correct.  I'd like to hear what others think if this is
>>>> the correct baptismal record.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0wsL1ZsjpNc/WrM38mAfbrI/AAAAAAAAAA4/uDl-9XJq7EcRxoIRqM8Le66BXmlKrlEnwCLcBGAs/s1600/FAL-HT-ANGUSTIAS-B-1830-1835_0008.jpg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c9c1p6kUMXc/WrM9023PKJI/AAAAAAAAABI/vShxjFnE6s0UkGvyjtxbg_OJMrlbcM-gQCLcBGAs/s1600/img005%2Bcopy.jpg>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NI8JaZ-6TP0/WrM-relIN9I/AAAAAAAAABY/otWBUcEvnx0SU0okGdT_eYkV0DdNQVovgCLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_2174%2Bcopy.jpg>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eAv2S2tS-MY/WrM-EeJjCFI/AAAAAAAAABM/lU2FR4UhXOYO05apBHxRIAoobBppQgl1wCLcBGAs/s1600/info%2Bfor%2Bimg002%2Bcopy.jpg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> John Machado
>>>> Castro Valley, CA
>>>>
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