Thanks, Bill. I think that it was finally figured out!

Rosemarie
[email protected]
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:49 PM, 'Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Rosemarie,
>
> Sorry, I'm a little late to the conversation.  My Grandparents are from
> the Freguesia da Nossa Senhora de Guadalupe, Santa Cruz da Graciosa.
> They were married in the Igreja de Nossa Senhora de Guadalupe.  I'm
> attaching a picture of the church.  Both grandparents are related to the
> Visconde do Rosario.  Manuel Jose Conde, Visconde do Rosario, was born in
> 1817 and passed away in 1897.  I looked at a book I have with an inventory
> of all of the buildings on Graciosa.  I did not see any mention of Rosario
> in the description of the church.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, July 25, 2018, 9:53:59 AM PDT, Rosemarie Capodicci <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Goncalo,I think that does answer the question about NS da Rosario!
> It's a statue in the Church of Guadalupe!
>
>
> Rosemarie
> [email protected]
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Gonçalo Marques <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Here are the translations
>
> Alicerces Iniciados a 15 de Maio de 1713. Primeira pedra assente a 22 do
> mesmo mes. Missa inaaugural a 5 de Agosto de 1756. estaurada enre Set. do
> 1918 e Febereiro de 1919.
> Foundations initiated 15 de Maio de 1713. First stone set on 22 of the
> same year. Inauguaral mass 5 de Agosto de 1756 . Restored from Set. do 1918
> to Febereiro de 1919
>
> "Destaque para as imagens da padroeira, de aliciante expressao, e de Nossa
> Senhora do Rosario, esta chegada a ilha em Abril de 1922."
> One should be notice the images (usually wooden statues) of the patron
> saint, with an enticing expression, and of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, this
> last arrived at the island on April of 1922.
>
> The parentesis was added by me
>
> Cheers
> Gonçalo
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I just looked at my *Guido de Monterey, *which is a little guide book
> that was published many years ago. Under the chapter on the churches and
> ermidas it says: NS de Guadalupe--Alicerces Iniciados a 15 de Maio de 1713.
> Primeira pedra assente a 22 do mesmo mes. Missa inaaugural a 5 de Agosto de
> 1756. estaurada enre Set. do 1918 e Febereiro de 1919. Then the next
> paragraph says, "Destaque para as imagens da padroeira, de aliciante
> expressao, e de Nossa Senhora do Rosario, esta chegada a ilha em Abril de
> 1922."
> If someone who reads Portuguese could translate I think we would have the
> answer!!
> Sorry that it took me so long to remember I had that book!
>
>
> Rosemarie
> [email protected]
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Maria Lima <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Cathy, I also did some "googling" first with NS DO ROSARIO on Graciosa.
> It seems that church was built over the church of the Holy Spirit.  I'm
> sure you'll come across that.  But then I couldn't figure if Guadalupe was
> built over that church.  I got thrown off by the map that had one church in
> the north and another on southern tip.  I know you're a good researcher and
> will find it if it is possible.  Sorry I couldn't figure it out.  Maybe
> it's another of our connections (?).
>
>
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Jul 23, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Cheri Mello <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I tried searching in Portuguese and can't turn it up. Maybe there was a
> name change between then and now? The best I could come up with is the list
> of churches, ermidas, and imperios on Graciosa:
> https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Lista_de_edifica%C3%A7%C3%B5es
> _de_car%C3%A1ter_religioso_dos _A%C3%A7ores#Ilha_Graciosa
> <https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_edifica%C3%A7%C3%B5es_de_car%C3%A1ter_religioso_dos_A%C3%A7ores#Ilha_Graciosa>
>
> At least you are looking at Graciosa (only 4 parishes) and you are looking
> for an Amaro AND you have his parents. So it's do-able.  Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Cathy Bourgeois <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Here’s the marriage link and it says the same thing
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
> SAOJOSE-C-1764-1788/SMG-PD-SAO JOSE-C-1764-1788_item1/P141.ht ml
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1764-1788/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1764-1788_item1/P141.html>
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> I’ll start looking at Guadalupe first!
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Monday, July 23, 2018 4:31 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Freguesia on Graciosa Island question
>
>
>
> My guess is that the priest mean to say Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe or
> Nossa Senhora da Luz. Guadalupe and Rosario are both 4 syllables. Luz is
> only one.
>
>
>
> I'd get their marriage, which I would guess is in the bride's parish (Sao
> Jose in Ponta Delgada - I walked by that church every day last week)! That
> should help clarify it (hopefully). Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Cathy Bourgeois <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thank you very much.  I guess I’ll have to go through all the freguesias
> if someone doesn’t know.
>
>
>
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> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Rosemarie Capodicci <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Monday, July 23, 2018 3:34 PM
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Freguesia on Graciosa Island question
>
>
>
> Cathy, I don't see a place/church by that name either ( I also looked at
> the AzoresGenWeb site) Maybe it's just a name of a neighborhood? Perhaps
> someone with more experience on Graciosa can chime in with an answer.
>
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> [email protected]
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Cathy Bourgeois <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> The record link below says the father is from frequesia “Senhora do
> Rozario” on Graciosa Island.  Not being very familiar with that island,
> what freguesia would that be under now?  (The record for Manuel – right
> hand side).
>
>
>
> I only see freguesias: Guadelupe, Luz, Santa Cruz and Sao Mateus on the
> tombo.pt site.
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
> SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776/SMG-PD-SAO JOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P176.ht ml
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P176.html>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cathy Bourgeois
>
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