Great. I have continued to research these lines. I found the marriage record for Antonio Coelho Berbereia’s parents, Jose Coelho de Melo Machado and Isabel de Jesus. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1860-1869_item1/P29.html
Do not have Isabel de Jesus’s baptism record but her parents are Antonio Ferreira Coelho and Antonia Narcisa and here’s the link to their marriage record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1831-1843/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1831-1843_item1/P41.html I also have the marriage records for their parents but will post tomorrow. I need to get off the computer right now. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Big Problems with Altares line which keepschanging names Dear Dorreen, It's interesting. I have not this one on my bdd. I'll do research and see if I can answer. Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em domingo, 23 de setembro de 2018 19:19:57 GMT+2, [email protected] <[email protected]> escreveu: Well where to begin…I’m trying to help a DNA cousin develop their tree. Their lineage goes through Antonio Coelho Berbereia and Maria do Espirito Santo. Here’s is the link to their marriage record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899_item1/P26.html In this document it says his parents are Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel de Jesus and her parents are Francisco Correia Romeiro and Maria Augusta. I can not find the marriage of these two couples. I have found the baptism of Maria do Espirito Santo, on the bottom of right side of the page on this link http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1870-1879/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1870-1879_item1/P134.html Here’s the really big problem: the birth of their first child, Maria, shows the grandparents to be parental Jose Coelho de Melo Machado and Isabel de Jesus and maternal Francisco Nunes and Amelia Augusta. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P71.html Second child Jesuina’s record lists grandparents as paternal Jose Correia de Melo Machado and Isabel de Jesus http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P102.html and so does the third child Esperanca’s record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P145.html as well as the 4th and 5th children who are twins Francisco and Amelia’s records. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1890-1899_item1/P183.html Then there is a change: for the 6th child Paulina’s record says her paternal grandparents are Jose Coelho Berbereia and Isabel de Jesus and her maternal grandparents are Francisco Nunes do Coito and Maria Augusta. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P31.html Now the adding of the “do Coito” to Francisco Nunes seem likely since I saw that surname on Amelia’s baptism as her godfather Manuel Nunes do Coito. Also I have been trying to track the Jose Coelho Berbereia for year now who seems to change his name to Jose Coelho de Melo and Jose Coelho de Melo Machado. This is very confusing because I believe this Jose is the son of Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel de Jesus, which is the son of Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel de Jesus, which is the son of Jose Coelho de Melo and Isabel da Conceicao who also uses Isabel de Jesus( my 2nd Great Grandparents, who is the son of Francisco Jose Berbereia and Joana Antonia. This change in their name continues through the rest of their children: Paulina #2, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P69.html Joao, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P95.html Joao Baptista, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P116.html Isabel http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P140.html and Alexandrina http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1900-1911_item1/P198.html Questions: DO YOU THINK THAT THE MARRIAGE RECORD HAS THE MISTAKE? OR IS THERE ANOTHER REASON WHY THE BRIDE’S PARENTS ARE NOT THE MATERNAL GRANDPARENTS? hOW COMMON IS IT TO HAVE A PERSON’S NAME CHANGE SO MANY TIMES (I’m speaking of Jose Coelho (Correia) de Melo aka Jose Coelho de Melo Machado aka Jose Coelho Berbereia) And is it just my luck or DO YOU THINK IT IS NOT LIKELY THAT ALL THESE JOSE COELHO DE MELO(S) ALL MARRIED ISABEL DE JESUS(S)? ANY FEEDBACK/DIRECTION/ADVISE/ETC WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. Thanks, Doreen Caetano Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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