Crafts can be many things. A really good plumber could master his craft too. Maybe he'd be a mestre as well. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 1:13 PM Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> wrote: > Cheri, you can take it to mean as you wish but I disagree it covers just > crafts. Simply because I grew up with the term. My Mom and Grandmother’s > teacher was a Mestra, and that was Education, not crafts. > > The term is also used in English schools. The Principal of the School was > the Head Master. Why do you think that is? > > Angela’s references first Edition is dated 1798— discussing Antiquated > terminology prior to that time period. While the question posted was for > *1870-1879*. If antiquated back then how much more antiquated will it > not be 72 years later? > > > > A mestre / mestra is a teacher whether that be trades or education. > > > mestra > Significado de Mestra > > substantivo feminine Mulher que ensina ou leciona; professora. > > > > > > Best, > > Margaret > > > > *From: *Cheri Mello <[email protected]> > *Sent: *November 15, 2019 3:10 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra > demeninhos(as)"? > > > > So, from an American point-of-view, she was the teacher (or person who > mastered her craft) of home economics. Interesting terminology from back > then, > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:07 PM Ângela Loura <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Mestra was the lady who teached the girls the crafts in order to be good > housewives. Cooking, sewing, taking care of babies... > > > > Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> escreveu no dia sexta, > 15/11/2019 à(s) 17:21: > > “Mestra de Meninas” or currently spoken “Professora de meninas” means > “School girls Teacher” in the 1800’s schools were segregated by sex. Mixed > classes did not exist back then. > > > > Margaret v. > > > > *From: *Cheri Mello <[email protected]> > *Sent: *November 15, 2019 12:09 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de > meninhos(as)"? > > > > Hi Jessica, > > > > Mestre (masculine) or mestra (feminine) means master. Professora is > teacher (feminine). > > > > You'd need to look for another "os" or "as" in the document to figure out > if it's meninos or meninas. I kinda think it's meninas. > > > > So what is a master of the girls? My understanding of a master is someone > who has mastered something. It could be a trade as well as someone who went > to school and mastered a subject. I believe the word is also used for a > person who is in a leadership position as well. The native speakers can > shed more light on this. > > > > My complete wild guess (I've never seen this occupation) is that she's in > charge of the girls' orphanage. She could also be something like a girls' > principal. > > > > Native speakers, please let us know what you think! Cheri > > > > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:01 AM JML <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi group! > > > > For this marriage of Joaquim Machado de Lemos and Maria da Luz. It states > that the bride's profession was that of a "mestra of children or just > girls" I can't tell if it's an "as" or "os" for menin_ _. > > > > Does anyone have any knowledge about professions in the 1800's? How much > schooling would have been acquired at that time to be a mestra? I'm > assuming mestra means teacher. > > > > This is the first profession I have found for a bride, other than > "domestica" or "costureira" so I am quite intrigued. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Jessica > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-TERRACHA-C-1870-1879/TER-AH-TERRACHA-C-1870-1879_item1/P77.html > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/55ccd547-0021-4dd6-9edd-98f5d2356a58%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/55ccd547-0021-4dd6-9edd-98f5d2356a58%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EPP5G_%3DO23ATnobM1S6BWVbsJ_rvAFX2gYVhLL7nYCzQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EPP5G_%3DO23ATnobM1S6BWVbsJ_rvAFX2gYVhLL7nYCzQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcedea8.1c69fb81.e5a5d.a8fb%40mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcedea8.1c69fb81.e5a5d.a8fb%40mx.google.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeXV%3DX33_p54WwrwpggafKPrnrOnAsLUrxqPd3x7jpd7A%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeXV%3DX33_p54WwrwpggafKPrnrOnAsLUrxqPd3x7jpd7A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_HvfhRtaDPnKAvveoysUpz9-gvjTbFe_x-oZ3zcx0xSAg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_HvfhRtaDPnKAvveoysUpz9-gvjTbFe_x-oZ3zcx0xSAg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcf14e3.1c69fb81.aa198.d28f%40mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcf14e3.1c69fb81.aa198.d28f%40mx.google.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GCGXyx4ALg-91ftw7OpozPqQVFZTf__EtC4aOPYfy3Gw%40mail.gmail.com.
