An interview about 'mestras': http://portocanal.sapo.pt/noticia/163588/
Cheri Mello <[email protected]> escreveu no dia sexta, 15/11/2019 à(s) 21:25: > Crafts can be many things. A really good plumber could master his craft > too. Maybe he'd be a mestre as well. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 1:13 PM Margaret Vicente < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Cheri, you can take it to mean as you wish but I disagree it covers just >> crafts. Simply because I grew up with the term. My Mom and Grandmother’s >> teacher was a Mestra, and that was Education, not crafts. >> >> The term is also used in English schools. The Principal of the School >> was the Head Master. Why do you think that is? >> >> Angela’s references first Edition is dated 1798— discussing Antiquated >> terminology prior to that time period. While the question posted was for >> *1870-1879*. If antiquated back then how much more antiquated will it >> not be 72 years later? >> >> >> >> A mestre / mestra is a teacher whether that be trades or education. >> >> >> mestra >> Significado de Mestra >> >> substantivo feminine Mulher que ensina ou leciona; professora. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> *From: *Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *November 15, 2019 3:10 PM >> *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra >> demeninhos(as)"? >> >> >> >> So, from an American point-of-view, she was the teacher (or person who >> mastered her craft) of home economics. Interesting terminology from back >> then, >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:07 PM Ângela Loura <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Mestra was the lady who teached the girls the crafts in order to be good >> housewives. Cooking, sewing, taking care of babies... >> >> >> >> Margaret Vicente <[email protected]> escreveu no dia sexta, >> 15/11/2019 à(s) 17:21: >> >> “Mestra de Meninas” or currently spoken “Professora de meninas” means >> “School girls Teacher” in the 1800’s schools were segregated by sex. Mixed >> classes did not exist back then. >> >> >> >> Margaret v. >> >> >> >> *From: *Cheri Mello <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *November 15, 2019 12:09 PM >> *To: *Azores Genealogy <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Profession "Mestra de >> meninhos(as)"? >> >> >> >> Hi Jessica, >> >> >> >> Mestre (masculine) or mestra (feminine) means master. Professora is >> teacher (feminine). >> >> >> >> You'd need to look for another "os" or "as" in the document to figure out >> if it's meninos or meninas. I kinda think it's meninas. >> >> >> >> So what is a master of the girls? My understanding of a master is someone >> who has mastered something. It could be a trade as well as someone who went >> to school and mastered a subject. I believe the word is also used for a >> person who is in a leadership position as well. The native speakers can >> shed more light on this. >> >> >> >> My complete wild guess (I've never seen this occupation) is that she's in >> charge of the girls' orphanage. She could also be something like a girls' >> principal. >> >> >> >> Native speakers, please let us know what you think! Cheri >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:01 AM JML <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi group! >> >> >> >> For this marriage of Joaquim Machado de Lemos and Maria da Luz. It states >> that the bride's profession was that of a "mestra of children or just >> girls" I can't tell if it's an "as" or "os" for menin_ _. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any knowledge about professions in the 1800's? How much >> schooling would have been acquired at that time to be a mestra? I'm >> assuming mestra means teacher. >> >> >> >> This is the first profession I have found for a bride, other than >> "domestica" or "costureira" so I am quite intrigued. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Jessica >> >> >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-TERRACHA-C-1870-1879/TER-AH-TERRACHA-C-1870-1879_item1/P77.html >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/55ccd547-0021-4dd6-9edd-98f5d2356a58%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/55ccd547-0021-4dd6-9edd-98f5d2356a58%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EPP5G_%3DO23ATnobM1S6BWVbsJ_rvAFX2gYVhLL7nYCzQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EPP5G_%3DO23ATnobM1S6BWVbsJ_rvAFX2gYVhLL7nYCzQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcedea8.1c69fb81.e5a5d.a8fb%40mx.google.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcedea8.1c69fb81.e5a5d.a8fb%40mx.google.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeXV%3DX33_p54WwrwpggafKPrnrOnAsLUrxqPd3x7jpd7A%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeXV%3DX33_p54WwrwpggafKPrnrOnAsLUrxqPd3x7jpd7A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_HvfhRtaDPnKAvveoysUpz9-gvjTbFe_x-oZ3zcx0xSAg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_HvfhRtaDPnKAvveoysUpz9-gvjTbFe_x-oZ3zcx0xSAg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcf14e3.1c69fb81.aa198.d28f%40mx.google.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5dcf14e3.1c69fb81.aa198.d28f%40mx.google.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GCGXyx4ALg-91ftw7OpozPqQVFZTf__EtC4aOPYfy3Gw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GCGXyx4ALg-91ftw7OpozPqQVFZTf__EtC4aOPYfy3Gw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. 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