On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> From: "Rolf" <[email protected]>
> Date: June 3, 2013 2:20:12 AM CDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name...
> 
> 
> Dear Jonathan,
> 
> I have an explanation that differs from yours. The kaf is the first letter of 
> the syllable, and because it has no preceding vowel, it should have had a 
> dagesh and have been a stop, according to Masoretic rules. But it is 
> fricative because other forms of MLK have a vowel before the kaf. Therefore, 
> when Masoretic rules are violated, and we find a fricative begadkefat, which 
> should have been a stop, this is often a signal that something is lacking 
> that previously was there—here a vowel.
> 
sure, but I think its new environment has to play a role as well. In this case 
the fact that the lamed is a continuant encourages the speaker to keep the 
fricative kaf.  To confirm this I need to see some examples where the middle 
consonant is a stop.  But my main point is that it is first a deep structure 
phenomena then by observation it became a masoretic rule.
> 
> The vocalization of the four consonants YHWH leads to one closed syllable, 
> YEH, and one open syllable, WA. A shewa in a closed syllable violates the 
> rules of the Masoretes, Therefore, when it occurs, it may signal that 
> something is lacking that previously was there. And this "something" 
> naturally was a vowel after he. This would lead to three open syllables 
> YE-H+vowel-WA.
> 
Yes I agree. In fact Nehemiah points out that on two occasions the holem is 
included.  He believes this to be an early scribal slip.

> The position of Nehemiah Gordon may or may not be true; in my view, his 
> arguments are not  convincing. We do not know the real pronunciation of YHWH, 
> but the clues we have, based on theophoric names, and corroborated by 
> Akkadian transcriptions of Hebrew names, are that YHWH had three syllables, 
> that the first was YE, and the last was WA, or WE (segol), and that the 
> middle vowel was O  or U. There is absolutely no ancient Hebrew evidence in 
> favor of the two-syllabic YAHWEH.
> 
Agreed. I have never liked the YAHWEH argument; it just seems too ad hoc.  I 
would point out that Nehemiah adds to his argument that names do not follow 
vowel grammar, but instead generally work on a similarity principle, like 
Manasseh with "forget", and Ephraim with "fruitful".  He makes a good point 
that we have no reason to force a sentence grammar on the tetragrammaton.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Rolf Furuli
> Stavern
> Norway

Best Regards to you too,

Jonathan Mohler
Baptist Bible Graduate School
Springfield, Missouri, U.S.
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