Ohhhhhh!!! Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Dave Washburn <[email protected]> wrote: > It just meant I didn't understand the joke. > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Scott Lawson <[email protected]> wrote: >> Can you elaborate? Is it puns in general you take issue with? Or is it just >> mine? ;-) >> >> Timothy Lawson >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Dave Washburn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> She is correct. I tried using "creuse," which in French actually does mean >>> "dig," but using French spelling for the English word seemed sillier. >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Timothy Lawson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I had to ask my wife who happens to be French Canadian and was raised in a >>>> hippie school...she said she thinks it means you don't dig my joke, but >>>> she'd have to think aBOOT it, eh? >>>> >>>> Timothy Lawson >>>> >>>> Red Bluff, CA USA >>>> >>>> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 10:55:03 -0700 >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> CC: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] G.Gertoux and the Name... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Chavoux Luyt <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Shalom everybody >>>> >>>> While I found this discussion interesting, I must say that I do not see >>>> conclusive evidence one way or the other. >>>> 1. Did most Jews replace YHWH with Adonai already by the first century CE? >>>> Even if most did, there are evidence that not all of them did and some >>>> late evidence from the Talmud that at least the minim (probably Jewish >>>> Christians) of the first century did indeed pronounce the Name. >>>> 2. Did the Jewish authors of the New Testament use YHWH or IAO in their >>>> Greek quotations of the Tanach, however? Did diaspora Greek-speaking Jews >>>> (using the LXX) still pronounce YHWH or use Kurios instead? When exactly >>>> did they start using KS instead of YHWH in manuscripts (and did the >>>> pronunciation only change then or was this simply writing down what they >>>> already said normally)? >>>> >>>> One possible piece of evidence I find missing in the discussion (maybe >>>> there are no early manuscripts?) is the Aramaic Targums... what did they >>>> do with regards to the Name? Would they not give a better indication to >>>> how Palestinian Jews pronounced the Name than the LXX? >>>> >>>> >>>> Considering that virtually all the ancient "LXX" evidence we have is from >>>> the DSS, and the common agreement is that they were produced by a splinter >>>> group with its own rules, attitudes and forms of piety, I'm not even sure >>>> those can tell us anything about what the general public did. But there's >>>> something else I've been considering, and that's the use of the archaic >>>> script for the name, both in some of the Greek fragments and also in many >>>> of the Hebrew ones. The question that comes to mind is, what does this >>>> tell us about how they handled the name? Considering that the vast >>>> majority of the Judean populace probably couldn't read those characters >>>> any more, using them for the name looks an awful lot like a signal NOT to >>>> pronounce it and substitute a euphemism instead. Obviously we have no way >>>> to know what that euphemism might have been, but the use of the paleo >>>> script gives me a hint that they considered the name too sacred even to >>>> write in regular script, much less pronounce out loud. Thoughts, anyone? >>>> This could also apply to the IAW shorthand in that one document: more of a >>>> place holder than "say it this way." What think you all? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave Washburn >>>> >>>> Check out my Internet show: http://www.irvingszoo.com >>>> >>>> Now available: a novel about King Josiah! >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ b-hebrew mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Washburn >>> >>> Check out my Internet show: http://www.irvingszoo.com >>> >>> Now available: a novel about King Josiah! >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> b-hebrew mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew > > > > -- > Dave Washburn > > Check out my Internet show: http://www.irvingszoo.com > > Now available: a novel about King Josiah! >
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