Gilberto:
The followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (who claimed to be the Mahdi and
the Second Coming of Christ) identify themselves as Muslim. The
movement split into "Qadianis" who say he was a prophet and "Lahoris"
who don't. There have been laws on the books in Pakistan declaring
them (at least the ones who say he was a prophet) to be non-Muslim.JS:
Not sure about their beliefs or views.
Gilberto:
And did not say that they were. (But I also wouldn't necessarily
exclude it, for example the Unification Church teaches that Rev. Moon
was the Second Coming and his writings are given a special status)JS: Don't know much about the Moonies either.
> In Islam, Muhammad Himself is a Prophet. Why? Because the
> word 'Khatam' is a reference that no other Muhammad will return until the
> End.
Gilberto: No, that there will be no new prophets. Jesus already came before and
so he isn't a new prophet. And the Mahdi isn't a prophet.JS: But aren't all the prophet one? So Baha'u'llah in that sense, Baha'u'llah isn't a new prophet either.
G: It's not clear to me how you are using "Christs". It literally means
"annointed" and kings were traditionally annointed. So in some sense,
many people are Christs. Even Cyrus the persian king who ended the
Babylonian captivity is called "christ" in the Bible. And in some
Christian circles when a person is called to preach they talk about
having "received an annointing" in some sense.J: I just meant "Jesuses".
> The Christian prophet does not equal the Qur'an prophet because in the
> Christian sense, Jesus was not a Prophet.
G:!?!? Jesus is called a prophet in the Bible though. He's just also alot more.
JS:Yes, I understand that, but since they say that Jesus is the Son of God, they say he is more than a Prophet, more than Moses, for example.
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